Political & Elections

longprime · Guru

RE: Low self-esteem among girls and young women - is it really that big an issue?

catahoula · Guru

For all except academics,I think they're better at reading and following social cues, mostly. Programmed to feel they must vs. boys who can't/won't see the utility. Speaking generally, since I don't know many that aren't exceptions to the rule.

You're probably on the money there, SLS, but she'll still bring an enormous amount of joy to some schmuck who didn't realize what he'd been missing all his life. Right along with her, I'll adore the guy too, because as my dad was fond of saying: "don't talk bad about my son-in-laws.. they're about the best thing that's ever happened to me."

Emeraldkity · In exile

Imo why women are perhaps "more connected" with social/academics/community, is because women may make more connections to details that may or may not be important at the time. This skill is useful when looking for threats toward your babies, but for being able complete a task throughout distractions not so much. There have always been obstacles toward goals, they might change in form, but how many wish they were the opposite sex? ( ok, well, we'll talk about that later).

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

Cat, Your baby girl will likely be the most well adjusted of your brood and will turn out fine. Hang in there! My experience working with both genders, the teen girls tend to have it together and far outpace the boys. Both genders are great, but often the girls just learn how to play the game a little earlier than the boys. Usually.

longprime · Guru

I'm far too nice of a guy to say anything biggrin I'd however be uncomfortable to be in the right seat. evileye

Able to get my home last night and able to catch DS's call- he helped me get a full screen, gotta grab the top-left to its corner and the bottom right corner to its corner.

Now gotta figure out, if this can do Tiles.

catahoula · Guru

Humor's always appreciated and I don't see anyone around here with self-esteem issues.

Mine's off the charts (for a dog, anway) and I doubt you popped longprime's at all. Heck, with that 1/4 screen you've got him peering at, and this little bitty font, I'll bet he wasn't even able to read it.

Of my two boys and one girl, my daughter got most of what there was to go around. Not that she probably isn't insecure about a great many things, but she's stubborn to the point my wife and I've always just shaken our heads. When she was a little girl, we used to nervously joke (more like prophesized, the way it looks now) that there was a little boy out there, somewhere, that had bad dreams almost every night.

The lucky fellow she was going to some day marry.

(And don't even ask, longprime... she's too young for your's.)

-- Edited by catahoula on Friday 18th of January 2013 07:16:17 AM

busdriver11 · Guru

Oh, I don't mean to be unkind. I'm just kidding, as always.

longprime · Guru

they [girls] managed to keep their hands on the same old club they've always used so well -- that men have to add just being one to whatever other zits they show

IMO, they learned that leading the member is more effective than withholding the treasures. Virtually all activities are now open to females, and actively promoted. However, the reverse is not true. Not a new topic, well written about, old stuff. evileye

catahoula-dog,hard to decipher your last.

catahoula · Guru

That hearing thing's a witch, busdriver - whether you smile nervously or do the 'I'm really engrossed in everything I'm not hearing' nod, it's always at the wrong time. I'm thinking it's about time to go with 'aloof' and 'you're really boring me'. Coming across as inconsiderate can't be that much worse than the poster boy for Alzheimers.

You're right, longprime, and it was just proven on your electronic bod: not only did girls throw out the weaker sex thing (most, anyway), they managed to keep their hands on the same old club they've always used so well -- that men have to add just being one to whatever other zits they show.

catahoula · Guru

Right about this:

Today's young women are more empowered and adventurous than the "boys

And, along with the other deficiencies, you're guilty of the underlined:

"Maybe you only get half a screen because that's all you deserve."

"You are a man (at least that's what you claim), plus, you are longprime."

"You probably should only get one quarter of a screen."

(Quoted in it's entirety only for clarity, btw.)

-- Edited by catahoula on Thursday 17th of January 2013 09:31:00 PM

busdriver11 · Guru

The only parenting advice I've ever given throughout the years remains the same....don't kill them.

Sounds odd when they're older, but any parent of a two year old knows exactly what I'm talking about.

With our kids, they always knew they were the most important thing in the world to us. That we respect and admire them, what their strengths and weaknesses are. They have been fortunate to go to some amazing schools, to which my older son attributes a lot of his success. Not to what he learned in the classroom, but the opportunities he's had and being around really smart people, all the time (because obviously he can't get that at home). They both have a tremendous amount of confidence that they can do anything, but realize that they have to make it happen, the power lies with them, and nothing is going to fall into their laps. So yeah, I think that they will be fine, and I'll bet that most of the parents here have kids that will be just fine too.

longprime · Guru

My boys will be powerful too, I guarantee it. And so will all of your boys and girls.

So, what is your paticular solution(s) evileye , for yours?

busdriver11 · Guru

"Today's young women are more empowered and adventurous than the "boys"

We always had the power. We just didn't all know it.

My boys will be powerful too, I guarantee it. And so will all of your boys and girls.

winchester · Guru

Today's young women are more empowered and adventurous than the "boys".

Longprime has a valid point.

The War Against Boys

This we think we know: American schools favor boys and grind down girls. The truth is the very opposite. By virtually every measure, girls are thriving in school; it is boys who are the second sex.

By Christina Hoff Sommers

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/05/the-war-against-boys/304659/

The war on boys: Young men losing ground in education, emotional health and jobs

...
boys across America are losing ground. It's a situation so dire that three dozen national experts have formed a bipartisan commission to bolster their proposal that President Obama establish a White House Council on Boys and Men. There's already one for females, focused on education, health and career.

The proposal and the research backing it say boys are at a crisis point in education, in physical and emotional health, in employment and in the lack of dads participating in their lives. Boys are losing ground in schools geared to how girls learn and too many are growing up without male mentors in either homes or classrooms. Name a daunting number — higher suicide rates, how many drop out of high school or graduate from college or even take medication for attention deficit — and girls fare better than boys.

It is not deliberate, but society seems to have declared a war on boys.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765552031/The-war-on-boys-young-men-are-facing-a-new-crisis.html?pg=all

busdriver11 · Guru

Maybe you only get half a screen because that's all you deserve.

You are a man (at least that's what you claim), plus, you are longprime.

You probably should only get one quarter of a screen.

longprime · Guru

I won't touch this with a very long pole evileye evileye

[my first use on MacBook. DS gave me his old one, complete with new battery and fan. Thankyou. But how do you get a full screen view-I only get half screen?]

busdriver11 · Guru

Okay, apparently the only way I can post on the top thread in this section, is to move it down the list by posting on another one. Weird.....

Well, I also have to try to compensate for a slow wit...sometimes takes me awhile to get the joke. Plus I can't hear so well, either. So I just smile a lot, sometimes at inappropriate times. Oh well.

catahoula · Guru

Depending on which way you look at it, there might be more there than I intended to say, busdriver.

The curse of a decent vocabulary and a slow wit. Probably why I've always hated puns.

busdriver11 · Guru

A lot of guys would be buying based on that box sleeve! You have some marketable ideas there, cat.

catahoula · Guru

Since those trillion dollar deficits we're all resigned to aren't being fueled by 100K grants, this is just run of the mill weirdness.

Imagine the box sleeve: "Cool chick from frigid planet schools hot women as to the roots of their skanky behavior."

Maybe the climate change thing was just a little icing to get the grant money, but there's still a vibe here that the authors were showing their slips.

longprime · Guru

I hate new interfaces. I stayed with DRDOS and then MSDOS well into Windows Workgroups.

IMO, Today's young women are more empowered and adventurous than the "boys". Why do you think I've been dropping (hitting up Parent's with daughters) hints about DS's lack of GF.

Half or quarter, matters not, Can't see the screen nohow. And what about this keyboard, Arial font, dark gray, fine line on gray keys.

-- Edited by longprime on Wednesday 16th of January 2013 11:51:10 PM

Emeraldkity · In exile

I have two things to say- being that art is so subjective, Im surprised if this grant is the only one that someone would quibble with. Also since Spelman is a womens college, it makes sense to me that their proposal would be slanted toward how it relates to females. I was surprised at the numbers of grants for social media games. But then, Im old.

busdriver11 · Guru

Oh, that is hilarious! Well, I'm sure the video game makers might latch onto this idea if it sucks more girls into the video game vortex. Then again, if the female characters are bodacious babes, you might just see the guys be interested in it also. How hysterical. But if they make the characters unattractive man haters, well, they might get three people to play it. Should anything the NEA does surprise us?

And here all the time, we thought climate change had to do with the earth warming and carbon emissions. Instead, it is the fault of women all over the planet. Especially the middle school girls who are pretty much the most vicious group around......mocking others, hurting their self esteem, making them stick their fingers down their throat and feel depressed.

I usually just like to blame everything on men (because of course, whatever it is, it's their fault). But now we know the truth, thanks to NEA funding for higher education!

catahoula · Guru

Admit I'm only drawing from a sample size of one (a daughter who'll die laughing when she reads the following) but....

It’s been years since the National Endowment for the Arts was at the center of the culture wars, but blogger Jeryl Bier has discovered an astonishing NEA grant. It seems the endowment gave $100,000 of our tax money to Spelman College to design a politically tendentious videogame:

To support HERadventure, a multi-episode, augmented reality computer game. Targeted to young women ages 18-25, HERadventure’s story focuses on a young female superhero sent to Earth to save her own planet from devastation because of climate changes caused by social issues impacting women and girls.

How do “social issues” lead to “climate changes”? The Spelman website explains:

The backstory of HERadventure begins when HER, a warrior woman and inhabitant of Earth’s sister planet, comes to Earth to investigate why it is causing her native planet to freeze and slowly die. HER discovers that the auras of Earth’s women are diminishing. . . . negative self-esteem, discrimination, eating disorders, and depression, which are causing women’s auras to suffer.

longprime · Guru

I don't think it is odd that this woman is all that different from other women. Fairly typical of DW to make this type of reasoning. Given enough time, the right setting, everything and something is/will be a Big Issue for a Woman. biggrin confuse

BTW, didn't realize that you had a DD evileye .

-- Edited by longprime on Wednesday 16th of January 2013 08:13:28 AM

-- Edited by longprime on Wednesday 16th of January 2013 08:16:24 AM