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If MR should win, We will all get tax incentives to buy nutritionals and whatnots. evileye Or have fewer regulations over MLM schemes. evileye



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"Another reason: compared to previous presidents, Obama has been tightfisted with the federal budget, achieving the slowest pace of growth since Eisenhower. "

I remember this coming out and also remember how it got panned as a hash of cherry-picked slice and dice.

Now contrast that with a true Republican

Maybe it's just me, jd, but it seems a little surreal to me when liberals tout the virtues of Reagan... or his budget guy, Stockman, for that matter. I mean, they're both figures that were cartoon characters to the left, back when, and it makes me wonder what or who's changed.

I'd like to think this fellow might share my unease -- he seems sensitive enough:

Standing there getting our picture taken ... it was SO strange, being this close to a real live president. I thought of all the times I had seen him on TV, especially election night in 2008 — watching with tears in my eyes as the Obama family took the stage after winning the election, thinking to myself what so many others were thinking: "Finally!!! Sweet justice! A real live person is our president! Who has a real live family and a loving relationship with his wife! A president that does not seem like an evil robot!!!" What a revelation it was.

And has a pretty good rationale for not voting for Bush again, too.



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Now contrast that with a true Republican:

Hero Reagan’s Compromise Would Collide With Tea Party Certitude

During Reagan’s eight years in the White House, the federal payroll grew by more than 300,000 workers. Although he was a net tax cutter who slashed individual income-tax rates, Reagan raised taxes about a dozen times.

His rhetoric matched that of many of today’s most ardent Christian conservatives, yet he proved to be a reluctant warrior on abortion and other social issues. Perhaps most tellingly, he was willing to cut deals, working closely with Democratic leaders such as House Speaker Tip O’Neill of Massachusetts to overhaul Social Security and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dan Rostenkowski of Illinois to revamp the tax code.

That record prompted President Barack Obama in April to invoke a predecessor’s words about tax fairness, quoting a story about an executive who paid lower tax rates than his secretary and millionaires who exploited loopholes to pay no taxes while a bus driver paid his fair share.

“That wild-eyed socialist, tax-hiking class warrior was Ronald Reagan,” Obama said.

More Complicated

It isn’t that Reagan wasn’t a true believer. He was simply more complicated than that. “Reagan was a splendid politician,” said Lou Cannon, who has written five books about the 40th president. “He didn’t personally think compromise was bad. It’s what he did rather than what he said. He gave the right rhetoric but his policies were centrist.”

That willingness to compromise is what led former Florida Governor Jeb Bush to tell a group of Bloomberg editors in June that Reagan “would have a hard time” leading the Republican Party if it gets to a place where orthodoxy doesn’t allow for disagreement.

One of Reagan’s strengths was his ability to create a compelling narrative about America and its role in the world. “A Time for Choosing,” the talk Reagan delivered on behalf of Barry Goldwater that aired nationwide on Oct. 27, 1964, didn’t help much at the polls; it did launch one of the most successful political careers of the 20th century.

Recurring Themes

Reread the speech today, and you will see the themes Reagan returned to, as governor of California, as White House candidate and, finally, as a two-term president. “This is the issue of this election,” declared Reagan almost 50 years ago. “Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little, intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol (sic) can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.”

Those words are vintage Reagan, which explains why Senator Jim DeMint is quick with his answer to those who say Reagan wouldn’t have a home in today’s Republican Party.

“That’s nonsense,” says the South Carolina Republican and hero of the Tea Party movement.

Yet Reagan understood the difference between a speech meant to attract voters and governance designed to achieve larger goals.

He was politically supple, a master at finding that connective tissue between actions and words. He was willing to accept tax increases if he could obtain a broader overhaul of the tax code, and a larger government if that meant increases in defense spending.

Not in Lockstep

He won over Southern evangelicals who thought he was in lockstep with them in opposing abortion, and then he spoke to their mass rallies only via teleconference, with no image of him on the scene. He appointed moderate judges such as Sandra Day O’Connor.

Then there is the ironic push of Reagan’s legatees to name highways, buildings and schools for him, cost be damned. Not to mention the Ronald Reagan Building and International Trade Center, a 3.1-million-square-foot structure, which is the largest office building in Washington.

The Republican Party that Mitt Romney will lead after he accepts the nomination this Thursday is in transition, with an anti-tax, anti-government energy that has stoked enthusiasm while almost guaranteeing the partisanship that has left Washington so paralyzed will deepen.

‘Looks Like Reagan’

Romney is still viewed with skepticism by many Tea Party backers, which may help explain why he picked Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin as his running mate. “He reminds us of Ronald Reagan,” Nancy Milholland, co-organizer of the Tea Party chapter in Racine, Wisconsin, said of Ryan. “He’s like the second coming of Reagan. It’s like he’s channeling Ronald Reagan. He even looks like Reagan.”

In its quest for another Reagan, the party has been driving out members deemed too moderate or accommodative. Senator Richard Lugar was one of Reagan’s most loyal supporters in the U.S. Senate in the 1980s, but the Indiana Republican was defeated by a primary challenger who sees DeMint as a role model.

“The idea is not simply to boost the Republican Party but it is to purify the party, and if this requires two or four or six years, so be it,” Lugar said. “The need to move the middle-of-the-roaders, moderates, out of the picture is an insistent one.” While Lugar says Reagan would recognize the Republican Party today, “he would find it a much more difficult group of people with whom to work.”

Even Goldwater

Even Goldwater might have trouble navigating some Republican lanes today. Goldwater, who died in 1998, criticized the rise of religious conservatives in the party and in his later years came to support gay rights and abortion rights.

Republican presidents in the last generation also have pursued policies that would have gained little traction in today’s GOP. Richard Nixon created the Environmental Protection Agency, which has been targeted by some conservatives for elimination. He also advocated wage-and-price controls. George H.W. Bush pushed the Americans with Disabilities Act. George W. Bush expanded Medicare by providing a prescription-drug benefit, one of many measures that substantially increased the federal budget deficit.

Reagan did have an advantage in keeping his party united that doesn’t exist today: The Cold War. “The glue that held Republicans together in the Reagan era was anti-communism, anti- Soviet,” said Cannon. “That’s the reason Reagan was transformational. But once the Soviet Union disappeared,” he adds, “there was no glue to hold the party together.”

Big Business

While Reagan railed against Big Government, he supported Big Business; after his Hollywood career cooled, Reagan made his living as a spokesman for General Electric. Big Business is one area where DeMint and his Tea Party colleagues may diverge from Reagan’s beliefs, at least to the degree that corporations use the levers of power in Washington to gain advantage through changes in regulation and tax policy.

“What the Republican Party needs to communicate to business is that the business of America is business, but the business of business is not to come to Washington to look for some kind of handout or loophole or to get us to pick winners and losers,” DeMint says. “And that’s what we’ve got in the business community now with some of the big players.”

He says, “they figure they’ve got a better shot of getting something through legislation than they have through competition, and Republicans can’t be a part of that.”

Fiscal Cliff

DeMint says that also means it will be harder to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff at the end of the year when tax cuts expire and mandatory spending cuts are imposed. “It’s a critical time because if we go too much further with the public depending on government and business dependent on government, it’s going to be difficult to turn that around in an election. This could be our last chance to get it right,” he said.

Tip O’Neill was only half right when he called Reagan “an amiable dunce,” yet only in today’s climate does one realize just how critical the amiability part was. Reagan liked to negotiate with Rostenkowski over drinks at the White House, and according to Jim Jaffe, Rostenkowski’s press secretary, each man knew the value of giving something to get something.

“When we were growing up, the social skills of politicians were to get along with everybody,” Jaffe said. “That’s something that doesn’t exist anymore.” Richard Norton Smith, a historian at George Mason University in Fairfax, Virginia, and former director of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Library, is among those who questioned whether Reagan would find a home in today’s Republican Party.

Tipping His Hat

“When he ran in 1980 he felt the need to tip his hat toward moderate Republicans, even toward the Roosevelt consensus that governed,” said Smith, who also directed the libraries of four other Republican presidents. “Reagan very shrewdly had been a big-tent Republican and recognized at that point in time that there were a fairly significant number of moderate, liberal Republicans who could be wooed into the tent.”

Since the time of Abraham Lincoln, the Republican Party has been made up of disparate factions. Today, the party is closer to monolithic than at any time since. Smith insists that Reagan “would barely recognize the degree to which not only have conservatives consolidated their control but conservatism itself has been redefined.”

How would Reagan have adapted to today’s political world? It’s a fun question to debate, with, of course, no certain answer. “Reagan demonstrated skill and dexterity,” said Smith. “He kept the big picture in mind.” It is a measure of Reagan’s gifts as strategist and tactician that one of the closing lines of “A Time for Choosing” came not from a hero of conservatism but from the famous 1936 speech of that Democratic Party rabble rouser, Franklin Delano Roosevelt. “You and I,” said Reagan, “have a rendezvous with destiny.”



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The Party of No, If Romney and Ryan win, How will they handle the Elephant in the Room, Michale Crunwald. Time Magazine Sept 3, 2012. The Republicans, Special Convention Issue.

" The owlist, studiously bland Senate minority leader from Kentucky was the unlikeliest of motivational speakers. He was a strategy guy, cycical and clinical; he reminded his members to stay calm, stay on message and stay united. Obama had promised postpartisanship, and Republicans could turn him into a promise breaker by withholding their support. "We got shellacked, but don't forget we still represent half of the population. "McConnell said. "Republicans need to stick together as a team." Or as Ohio Senator George Voinovich summarized the strategy: "If Obama was for it, we had to be against it."

More backround, book excerpt and preview of Sept 3 issue http://swampland.time.com/2012/08/23/the-party-of-no-new-details-on-the-gop-plot-to-obstruct-obama/

Comment: PBO programs and initiatives have been pretty much traditional stimulii. The problem for any Republican President is that they cannot do the same, which is OK, if their program works. The last time the R's had a program, "the Republican Party had just followed George W Bush off a political cliff. After preaching small government, balanced budgets and economic growth while producing bigger government exploding deficits, and economic collapse, they had gotten pasted for the second straight election [2008]."  ibid. 



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"Another reason: compared to previous presidents, Obama has been tightfisted with the federal budget, achieving the slowest pace of growth since Eisenhower. "

Tea party folks won't let the facts get in the way



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"If Obama was for it, we had to be against it, "

Quote, paraphrase, or aphorism, lp?

Not that there's that much difference between the last two nowadays but it sounds more like Limbaugh to me.smile



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I don't think that guy ought to be counting enhanced resource base to the president, jazzy. Yeah, Wallace Pratt said that "oil is first found in the minds of men" but I'm almost positive our community organizer was thinking of different things back when George Mitchell spent all that money proving the Barnett Shale economic. I'm doubtful he had any input at all on how best to climb the expensive learning curve of fracs, horizontals, multi-stage fracing of the horizontals (all but the last techniques perfected well, well before our president's time, too). And that the Bakken Shale would respond to the same isn't an idea he orginated, either. Not to my knowledge anyway.

I suppose not standing in the way of private enterprise counts for something but can't see any other than the green lobby as believing it defines proactivity.

No, about the only thing I'd tally to the administration is the "it's ridiculous to say there's a moratorium on drilling in the Gulf" moratorium he and his hung on the industry for quite a while. A long enough while that there were a few pieces written summing up the reduced output in deepwater it caused. An extremely substantial one.



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Another reason: compared to previous presidents, Obama has been tightfisted with the federal budget, achieving the slowest pace of growth since Eisenhower. 

This originally ran in Marketplace (WSJ) and then reprinted in Forbes. May 2012.

 

Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

 

Check out the chart –

 

 

Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

 In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

 In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

 In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

 In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

 Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.

There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.

Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.

What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.

 



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"If Obama was for it, we had to be against it, " a summary of Mitch McConnell's stategy to regain control. 

The Party of No, If Romney and Ryan win, How will they handle the Elephant in the Room, Michale Crunwald. Time Magazine Sept 3, 2012. The Republicans, Special Convention Issue.

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Making an election decision this year is tough for me.  On the one hand you have Mitt who has allowed the lunatic right to hijack the party but in a split government may be able to get something reasonable done.  He probably has more leadership skills.  Of course, if the Republicans win both the house and senate, his presidency will be a catastrophe.  Obama has shown no leadership qualities, cannot get anything done but at least has more rational policies.  I'll have to see how this all plays out.



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This was quirky enough I bookmarked it when I saw it a week or two ago.

http://90days90reasons.com/

That different things are important to different people goes without saying but what is fascinating is whether or not they'll hit "ninety" without mentioning once how good he's been for the economy.



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BC really did cut the budget and with a strong economy, balanced the books. I am afraid that if the R's win in 2012, they will do the same thing they did in 2001. evileye

Got snookered in 1971 when the R's took US off  the gold standard. Then got burned in the 1980's in the 600 ship Navy. Then got a rosey picture painted for us in believing the Wars won't show up in the Budget and deficit. 

How about the $100Billion for New Orleans. How high of a wall do you need to keep the Gulf out of a hole? 



-- Edited by longprime on Tuesday 28th of August 2012 12:29:47 AM

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Here's a list that could fill out some of the blank spaces:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernard-whitman/reason-14-energy-production_b_1819147.html

Here are the facts:

  • The United States now has more oil rigs (1,994) than any other country in the world, by far.

  • In 2011, less than half the petroleum consumed by the United States (45 percent) was imported from foreign countries, the lowest level since 1995.

  • By the end of 2013, the United States is expected to surpass Saudi Arabia and Russia in oil and gas production.

  • Natural gas production has regained its edge under Obama, leading to all-time highs, and this growth is projected to create more than 500,000 jobs by the end of this decade.

  • Since 2009, President Obama has approved twenty nine onshore renewable energy projects, including sixteen solar, five wind, and eight geothermal projects.

  • By the end of this year, the administration will issue permits for enough renewable power from our public lands and our offshore waters to power three million additional homes.

  • Obama authorized the first nuclear reactors to be built in the United States in three decades, creating thousands of jobs and cutting carbon pollution by sixteen million tons each year compared to a similar coal plan, the equivalent of taking 3.5 million cars off the road.

 

2012-08-23-energy.jpgSince President Obama took office, America's dependence on foreign oil has decreased every year. In 2010, the United States imported less than half of all the oil it consumed -- a first in thirteen years. In fact, net imports as a share of total consumption declined from 57 percent in 2008 to 45 percent in 2011 -- the lowest level in sixteen years. In the last year alone, we have cut net oil imports by 10 percent -- a million barrels per day. Domestic oil and natural gas production have increased every year President Obama has been in office.

Thanks to the largest investment in clean energy in American history, the United States has nearly doubled renewable energy generation from wind, solar and geothermal sources since 2008. Last year, the United States regained its title as the world's leading investor in clean energy technologies, beating countries such as China, India, and Germany.

In addition, President Obama has repeatedly called on Congress to eliminate the unnecessary and wasteful tax breaks for the oil and gas industry, which would save American taxpayers $4 billion per year.

Smart leadership... Forward-thinking strategies...Integrated innovation.

 

 

 

And in addition, some big ones that could be added:

* He "kept us safe" (remember that one from the 2004 election?)

* drone attacks against Al-Quada and Taliban enemies.....getting the job done while sparing American lives.   The far-left holds this against Obama big time, but I personally applaud it.   Warfare with a scalpel approach is better  than a meat cleaver for our soldiers as well as for civilian populations. 

* A growing economy, albeit slowly, with a steady (and recovered) stock market performance and some of the highest rates of corporate profit in history (capitalism and Big Business are doing "fine").

 

 

 



-- Edited by jazzy on Monday 27th of August 2012 07:18:27 PM

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