Political & Elections

winchester · Guru

RE: Selective editing and reporting of Zimmerman 911 call

longprime · Guru

Personally,

What Z did, assaulted my sensibilities, he violated my space, threatened my being, and therefore I invoke the SMG law.

winchester · Guru

we afford everyone their day in public opinion/courts

Both sides of every story are aired in court. The court is duty bound to consider each story on its own merits.

The court has no practical insight into whether the person(s) making the argument(s) is/are playing with a full deck. People who are not playing with a full deck can hire lawyers who can make just about anything sound plausible.

In this way the court can sometimes become an enabler for patholical people, or people with personality disorders. The court becomes just a bigger weapon, this one with the force of law behind it, which such people can use to continue and to escalate their manipulative and abusive ways.

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

Election year?

Guns rights?

Whites vs. Blacks?

The media jumped on this, made it a good vs. evil case. They called it racism.

Our President made a statement. The New Black Panthers called for his blood.

The sad, unfortunate fact is that a kid got killed. We don't know his motives. An overly enthusiastic guy in a neighborhood that had numerous crimes may have over-reacted.

Why is this still getting air play? Ratings. Now the media outlets are all pulling back. Not so in those first few days of the case. Zimmerman is in hiding.

There is no "innocent until proven guilty" when the media sets the narrative.

john doe · Guru

I have no idea why this is such a big media event. People are killed everyday for all kinds of reasons including racist - why is there so much coverage of this one case???

winchester · Guru

Selective editing of the 911 tape is just the tip of the iceberg.

Media Dishonesty and Race Hustlers
By Walter Williams

When NBC's "Today" show played the audio of George Zimmerman's call to a Sanford, Fla., police dispatcher about Trayvon Martin, the editors made him appear to be a racist who says: "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." What Zimmerman actually said was: "This guy looks like he's up to no good or he's on drugs or something. It's raining, and he's just walking around, looking about." The 911 officer responded by asking, "OK, and this guy -- is he black, white or Hispanic?" Zimmerman replied, "He looks black." NBC says it's investigating the doctoring of the audio, but there's nothing to investigate; its objective was to inflame passions.

In his Associated Press article titled "Old photos may be deceptive in Fla. shooting case," Matt Sedensky pointed out that the photos carried by the major media were several years old and showed Zimmerman looking fat and mean and Martin looking like a sweet young kid.

Jesse Jackson told the Los Angeles Times that "blacks are under attack" and that "targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business," adding that Martin is "a martyr." President Barack Obama chimed in by saying, "If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."

Let's look at some non-news cases. On March 14 in Tulsa, Okla., a white couple suffered a home invasion by Tyrone Woodfork, a 20-year-old black man. Ninety-year-old Bob Strait suffered a broken jaw and broken ribs in the attack. His 85-year-old wife, Nancy, was sexually assaulted and battered to death, ending their 65-year marriage.

On March 4, two black Kansas City, Mo., youths doused a 13-year-old boy in gasoline and set him on fire, telling him, "You get what you deserve, white boy." Last summer, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel ordered an emergency shutdown of the beaches in Chicago because mobs of blacks were terrorizing white families.

Several years ago, in Knoxville, Tenn., a young white couple was kidnapped by four blacks. The girl was forced to witness her boyfriend's rape, torture and subsequent murder before she was raped, tortured and murdered. Before disposing of her body, the three men and one woman poured bleach or some other cleaning agent down her throat in an effort to destroy DNA evidence. A jury found the four guilty, and they were sentenced, but because of the judge's drug use, a retrial is being considered.

None of those black-on-white atrocities made anywhere near the news that the Trayvon Martin case made, and it's deliberate. Editors for the Los Angeles Times, The New York Times and the Chicago Tribune admitted to deliberately censoring information about black crime for political reasons, in an effort to "guard against subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion."

One doesn't have to be a liberal, conservative, Democrat or Republican to see the danger posed by America's race hustlers, who are stacking up piles of combustible racial kindling and ready for a racial arsonist to set it ablaze. Recruiters for white hate groups must love President Obama's demagoguery in saying that a son of his would look like Trayvon but not saying that Melissa Coon's 13-year-old son, who was set on fire, could have looked like a son of his. After all, the president is just as much white as he is black.

Even if the president and his liberal allies in the media and assorted civil rights hustlers don't care much about blacks murdering whites, what about blacks murdering blacks? During a mid-March weekend in Chicago, 49 people were shot, 10 fatally, including a 6-year-old black girl, making for more than 100 murders this year. Philadelphia isn't far behind, with murder clipping along at one a day since the beginning of 2012. Have we heard Obama make a statement about this carnage or that most homicide victims are black and that their murderers are black? No, and we won't, because black-on-black crime, like black-on-white crime, does not fit the liberal narrative of the continuing problem of white racism.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/11/media_dishonesty_and_race_hustlers_113808.html

longprime · Guru

I think that "we" as American's are always looking for a fair fight if the reasons are unknown. And even when the reasons are known, we insist that we afford everyone their day in public opinion/courts.

Zimmerrman, was not fightling fairly.

pima · Guru

The WaPo also addressed this issue.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/nbc-issues-apology-on-zimmerman-tape-screw-up/2012/04/03/gIQA8m5jtS_blog.html

It was not kind to NBC.

pima · Guru

I agree with your translation Cat. I probably would have said translation: How dare people question us, and our integrity? Don't you know you are to be sheep and follow?

catahoula · Guru

We should all be fleecy and bleat back when bleated at, yeah.

From the standpoint of the media coverage, this is awfully remniscient of of the Gabby Giffords shooting. Not that I can recall the outright doctoring of evidence to further the storyline in that one, but still pretty similar.

Hmm... I wonder if Krugman's weighed in on the matter yet?

edit: Silly me, of course he has and I even skimmed his ponderous pile of weighing over the weekend.

The man knows exactly who's responsible and what further evil intentions they have, too.

-- Edited by catahoula on Tuesday 3rd of April 2012 10:01:23 AM

catahoula · Guru

The NYT has a piece on the polarization of the campaign issue that's... well, disingenius is the kindest way to describe it... and along with the usual handwringing about why we aren't taking advantage of the opportunity to have that "conversation on race issues" that's somehow going to solve all our problems, includes this bit of self-serving bs from NBC...

“It has been depressing to watch something as important as this get run through the American polarization machine,” said Chris Hayes, the host of “Up With Chris Hayes,” a weekend political talk show on MSNBC. “The first week after it became national news, Act 1, seemed to be built on a shared agreement that what happened was outrageous and upsetting no matter what the facts ended up showing. But then came the backlash and now you’ve got people picking sides.”

... which roughly translates as: " it's appalling some people aren't buying our storyline."

-- Edited by catahoula on Monday 2nd of April 2012 08:09:40 PM

pima · Guru

Look at ABC now.

A few days ago they showed Zimmerman as a person with no physical injuries, now because of NBC's "alteration" of the tape, they have done a 180 degree turn.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-04-02/news/os-trayvon-martin-enhanced-video-040212_1_reporter-matt-gutman-abc-news-neighborhood-watch-volunteer-zimmerman

IMPO, they didn't follow Fox/Faux News to find the facts, they did it to beat their competitors, I.E. NBC.

Poetsheart · Senior Member

I know I'm said I wouldn't be posting here biggrin , but I just wanted to weigh in. Long story short: Yeah, it's a truly reprehensible thing NBC did, not excusable in the least, and I hope they are embarrassed and deeply ashamed (completely contrary to the way the late Andrew Breitbart remained, until his dying breath, beligerantly unapologetic over his selective editing of large portions of a video tape, which he used to smear Shirley Sherrod, the NAACP, and by extention, President Obama, making it appear as though they enthusiatically support racial discrimination against white farmers under the auspices of the U.S. Dept of Agriculture). In fact, I intend to send a scathing letter to NBC, letting it know of my tremendous loss of any semblance of faith I once held in their journalistic integrity. I'm sure they'll be crushed. yawn

longprime · Guru

Good for Murdock's Fox.

Takes a fox, to out fox a fox evileye

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/he-looks-black-nbc-launches-internal-investigation-into-selective-editing-of-zimmerman-police-tape/

Posted on March 31, 2012 at 8:55pm by Erica Ritz

‘HE LOOKS BLACK’: NBC LAUNCHES INTERNAL INVESTIGATION INTO SELECTIVE EDITING OF ZIMMERMAN POLICE TAPE

NBC has revealed that it is launching an internal investigation into the “editing process” surrounding the conversation between George Zimmerman and a police dispatcher (shortly before Trayvon Martin was shot), where Zimmerman appears to volunteer racial information.

Exposed by Fox News and Newsbusters, NBC played the conversation on the “Today Show” as: “This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.”

The unabridged version is:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

Erik Wemple of the Washington Post noted:

The difference between what ‘Today’ put on its air and the actual tape? Complete: In the ‘Today’ version, Zimmerman volunteered that this person ‘looks black,’ a sequence of events that would more readily paint Zimmerman as a racial profiler. In reality’s version, Zimmerman simply answered a question about the race of the person whom he was reporting to the police. Nothing prejudicial at all in responding to such an inquiry.
[...]
And it’s a falsehood with repercussions. Much of the public discussion over the past week has settled on how conflicting facts and interpretations call into question whether Zimmerman acted justifiably or criminally. That’s a process that’ll continue. But one set of facts in the is ironclad, and that’s the back-and-forth between Zimmerman and the dispatcher. To portray that exchange in a way that wrongs Zimmerman is high editorial malpractice well worthy of the investigation that NBC is now mounting.

Watch Sean Hannity discuss NBC’s decision, and the ramifications, below: