Political & Elections

pima · Guru

RE: florida

longprime · Guru

Heard Newt after vote speech. He's upset with superpac. Hey, it was a R issue. Hillary and Bill are prolly about superpacs, philandering, and male egos

He's still running. Perhaps for VP, the bad guy? evileye

Razorsharp · Guru

It looks like Florida is the tipping point in favor of Romney. I love it.

longprime · Guru

so, i wonder what a R Presidency and a R Congress can do.?? Go Ron. He is honest enough to say ,can't and won't do anything. I wish he would say it.

winchester · Guru

Its about getting your fair share and more.

This is the problem. Everybody sees the government as a feeding trough, and everybody is trying stick their snout in the trough to get their "fair share."

That's the mentality that needs to change.

catahoula · Guru

Why should they give the money back if it will just be spent on something else?

Sort of like the stimulus money curse: your citizens are co-signing on that loan, whether you drop your own snout in the trough to feed or not. What's really irritating is when you point out to the snuffling crowd that lean times are coming and that the old chestnut about "pigs get fed and hogs get slaughtered" might be a truism for a reason.

I wonder what the percentage of tax money coming back to the state vs what the state paid to the federal government is for red vs blue states.

I think that as long as the blue states continue to vote their principles (mostly the one about the federal government being the wisest entity in the room when it comes to matters of human well-being and uplift) they should just take pride in their good work.

soccerguy315 · Guru

Why should they give the money back if it will just be spent on something else?

john doe · Guru

I would suspect that the states getting the money in general are the same states that are represented by Republicans who are against government spending . I suggest that they all give back the money to the federal government to reduce the deficit.

winchester · Guru

I wonder what the percentage of tax money coming back to the state vs what the state paid to the federal government is for red vs blue states.

Which Red/Blue map are you going to look at? 2004, 2008, 2010, anticipated 2012? It’s awfully hard to draw any sort of conclusions from a map that’s never the same twice.

longprime · Guru

evileye

longprime · Guru

Winnie

that's why we have Congressmans and earmarks... Its about getting your fair share and more. Go Ron.

One thing about HighTechnology in California, Is that the Tech workers pay more in Federal Taxes by virtue of their higher pay. Those CA tax dollars are then spent in Utah and Arkansas where the cost of living is low. You get moe buck for the bang. evileye

Florida, the reverse is true. Low wages~low tax receipts~but receiving federal dollars from higher incomed states. ashamed

-- Edited by longprime on Monday 30th of January 2012 03:27:47 PM

Cartera · Guru

john doe - I think you are looking for info along these lines. I don't know whether there is a more up to date study out there or not.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/files/sr139.pdf

Alaska and New Mexico suck up the most federal money.

soccerguy315 · Guru

john doe - that is what the blue states want... for the government to take their money and give it to others.

longprime · Guru

yes and no military base closures is always contentious. small bases in the north. big bases in the south. Louisiana got big bucks from hurricanes and oil spill. Don't hear much from gov Jindel. Florida hurricanes, housing litigations, visa relaxation/processing. get the idea. there is a map

john doe · Guru

I wonder what the percentage of tax money coming back to the state vs what the state paid to the federal government is for red vs blue states.

longprime · Guru

R's are tearing themselves apart. One of the political fox commentators said that the 2010 elections only got the R's fatheaded.

I don't understand how the R's can say in Florida that unemployement should be limited, government should get out of home mortgages, immigration is a mess, and too many business regulations.

Florida got a lot of problems, Most of them are self inflicted. Some because of the Government. But the Government and me the taxpayer is spending more $$$$ in Florida than we are taking in.

Me, Get rid of federal flood insurance. Let's see how Floridians would like that. evileye

hope · Guru

I love your writing, lp (as well as your ideas, of course). It alone is worth the price of admission to this forum.

:)

longprime · Guru

why are the R candidates pandering the Floridans for their economic wows? Obama,s administration may not have helped Florida, but any help from somewhere else means it gotta come from somewhere else and who will it cost and how much. Go Ron. let the market place correct itself, without Political interference.