Political & Elections

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

RE: Obama. additional trained 10,000 engineers/yr

longprime · Guru

Abyss:

DS has never been unemployeed. He has always walked out of one door and into the next door the next day. He is currently working and apparently enjoying it ( 1 month, yesterday) and we are pleased that he is nearby.

I was illustrating the point that its not the lack of potential candidates to fulfill a certain position but ineptitude of the managerical class. The Dilbert Affect-pointed hair guy.

The new graduate market is in User Apps-Platforms. HR and hiring managers are looking at new grads because its easy to do but don't know what to do with people with experience and proven products.

-- Edited by longprime on Tuesday 14th of June 2011 12:26:50 PM

Abyss · Senior Member

longprime wrote:
Abyss wrote:
I have friends far less qualified with jobs. I think your son is too picky and through some strategic resume subtractions could work in quite a few places. Of course those jobs might be ****, but he'd be employed.
DS is very talented. Lives inexpensively. He could last a long time on his savings and persue his hobbies.
There is no shortage of USA talent. Business is looking for an excuse to reduce wages and not hire the most talented.

Then using your son as an example as a technical professional who is unemployed is an extremely poor one. He can get a job easily because he's well qualified. You seem to imply that your son can't get a job. He could be employed within 3 weeks with a number of offers if he wanted.

-- Edited by Abyss on Monday 13th of June 2011 09:03:06 PM

longprime · Guru

DS's partner & cowriter, in his master's program worked at a startup that was bought by a SanJose area software company. Partner recommended DS to company but the hiring manager has been too busy to do interviews.

longprime · Guru

Abyss wrote:
I have friends far less qualified with jobs. I think your son is too picky and through some strategic resume subtractions could work in quite a few places. Of course those jobs might be ****, but he'd be employed.

DS is very talented. Lives inexpensively. He could last a long time on his savings and persue his hobbies.

There is no shortage of USA talent. Business is looking for an excuse to reduce wages and not hire the most talented.

longprime · Guru

DS new company initially placed him on an independent contract employee. OK I said, you will have to pay both halves of payroll taxes and health insurance, but you are also free of any restrictions on searching for a new position.

He asked if he could get a better monitor or he could bring his own monitor. No, No they said, we will supply one (27 inch Apple monitor ~$500). But company discovered that they couldn't supply resources to a contractor so they changed DS status to temp employee and will pay for payroll taxes (probably not going to cost them anything because of Obama's new hire -payroll tax abatement) .

longprime · Guru

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Tech-Jobs-Plentiful-Talent-Is-tsmf-653789636.html

These companies have inept managers and HR.

Here's the excuse MS gave to DS in 2009, after consecutive 3 internships (India, Redmond, Germany. "HR, We catagorize you as a new graduate and we have already fullfilled our new graduate hires for this year" DS graduated in 2007 and MS hiring manager wanted him.

Recent 2011 MS story, Hiring manager, " You are just what I wanted, but I just hired." No other group took up his resume.

Big consumer electronic company, Arranged for a last minute and desparate interview with a group of managers. DS told them he needed an answer/offer in 3 days tops even before he flew down next day for interviews. HR took 7 days but a with a very good offer-but too late.

A User interface/User experience/Cross platform company, "We want you but we are moving to an expanded facility and we don't have the money now. Perhaps in 6 months after we move."

Abyss · Senior Member

I have friends far less qualified with jobs. I think your son is too picky and through some strategic resume subtractions could work in quite a few places. Of course those jobs might be ****, but he'd be employed.

longprime · Guru

Pre-emptive strike initiative against R's?

In 2008-09, DS couldn't find a job (not hiring/freezes) with 3 field internships with Microsoft, thesis Masters in CS, and a BSMEng Carnegie Mellon.

In 2011, DS couldn't get fast or any responses from interested/prospective companies with two additional years of work with a MacArthur professor (his undergrad advisor), improved humanoid robotics, 15 seconds of fame on NPR Marketplace, a widely cited MS Kinect hack, a Seattle Post feature on his street art, couple of PC applications, and numerous independent engineering-hobby-art.

-- Edited by longprime on Monday 13th of June 2011 08:24:01 PM

longprime · Guru

Be sure you google your own key words for your particular slant.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x688085

-- Edited by longprime on Monday 13th of June 2011 06:33:08 PM

-- Edited by longprime on Monday 13th of June 2011 06:36:11 PM