Gitmo will be needed for a long, long, time because when you preach on the evils of Ted Bundy, only to find that Charles Starkweather, Joel Rifkin, Wayne Williams, etc., are not only sitting amongst the faithful but expressing solidarity with Ted, there is an enduring problem.
A Saudi Muslim scholar has urged the Gulf Kingdom to introduce what he termed as terrorism allowance following a surge in threats against mosque preachers condemning terrorists, a Saudi newspaper reported on Monday.
As usual the Republicans ginned up story lines about if these prisoners are incarcerated in our most secure sites, we're still all doomed. Now they've proposed a bill to make it illegal to put Gitmo prisoners on American soil.
hayden also wrote: All we're doing now is opening ourselves up to the same criticisms we lodged against Hussein for keeping Abu Graib open.
...but, honestly, wouldn't you say that is some seriously ginned-up comparison, seeing as we are now on the subject of writing while snookered?
I love Law & Order. There is an episode about an upscale area tormented by someone, in the end the guy is beaten close to death and the perpetrator is found innocent. They walk away and say the reason the verdict went that way was because the jurors didn't want that person in their neighborhood.
This is the truth for GITMO.
People want it closed, but nobody wants them to come to their neighborhood if it they are going to be tried state side.
That is the question when you discuss the closing of GITMO, where do they go stateside? Easy if you live in a state that doesn't have the ability hard if you do.
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I was speaking more to the position of democrats on the issue, hayden. That of believing we can deal with followers of a movement in the same manner as we've dealt with the isolated crimanally insane.
I wasn't referencing supporters of terrorisms rather the type of people who would insist that, once in our country, they be treated like other criminals. Due process et al. They are not entitled to due process. Our criminals have it way too easy and they would as well if they were here.
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cat & prlmcomm, why would their terrorist supporters be okay with them being in Gitmo, but upset if they're held in a regular prison, treated better, in the US?
We're the target regardless of where they're jailed. All we're doing now is opening ourselves up to the same criticisms we lodged against Hussein for keeping Abu Graib open.
-- Edited by hayden on Sunday 12th of December 2010 07:51:16 PM
Note from me: I edited my post because I misspelled pmrlcomm's name, and for some stupid reason I still can't get it right. I keep thinking of violins.
-- Edited by hayden on Sunday 12th of December 2010 07:52:40 PM
Once on our soil it makes it easier for bleeding-hearts to insist on them being treated like prisoners and not terrorists. Prisoners are treated much too nicely in this country.
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I think Obama had the idea that if our federal prison system could successfully accomodate people like Dahmer, John Wayne Gacey, Mafia hit men, etc., that it could successfully protect the American public from the Gitmo prisoners. As usual the Republicans ginned up story lines about if these prisoners are incarcerated in our most secure sites, we're still all doomed. Now they've proposed a bill to make it illegal to put Gitmo prisoners on American soil.
So, of course, Republicans continue to criticize the President for not doing something they themselves made impossible.
It's really interesting what a candidate thinks they can and will do before they are read into the full picture. Sometimes the POTUS has to do distasteful things by necessity.
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it's like Obama thought all the people in GITMO were really just nice people the US was incorrectly holding... and then the funny Dems who agreed with him.
For two years, President Barack Obama has pretended that terrorism is a crime, that prisoners are unwanted, and that Gitmo is unneeded. As a presidential candidate, he declared: "It's time to show the world . . . we're not a country that runs prisons which lock people away without ever telling them why they're there or what they're charged with." Upon taking office, he ordered Gitmo closed within the year.