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BigG


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WikiLleaks Part 2; Threat or Menace?
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Bullet,

Good points.

Why are the the Marines are getting into cyber-warfare? I thought the Navy did all that for them so they could concentrate on more traditional missions.

Regarding security of information, it is massless and nearly instantly transportable. Security for such is difficult, much more so than for physical objects. If you are willing to task enough smart people with security, you can probably stay ahead of the professional and amateur hackers. But there has to be more downside to repeated attempts to hack systems. If you allow unlimited trial and error, someone can steal a nuke.

-- Edited by BigG on Saturday 27th of November 2010 06:56:00 AM

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This could be very serious for individual sources and collaborators.

Yep. Once they are able to find the source of these leaked classified documents (and they will), some people can expect some time in Leavenworth making little rocks out of big rocks.

Military and diplomatic personell should just get used to the fact that if it is electronic, it isn't private.

Nope. Classified is classified for a reason, and on secure networks for a reason. The ONLY way the data has been breached so far has been through individual crime. Hammer these particular individuals to the wall, and restore a level of deterrence to those in the future wanting to do a similar activity for similar motives. The price for treason during war was pretty stiff in previous wars (execution); just saying...

I worry about our growing dependance on "fly by wire" and other high tech control systems.

If you can build it, "they" can hack it.

Same here. I ALWAYS bring that point up to those roaming the Pentagon halls foolish enough to believe that the answers to all our future warfighting capabilities are drones. Nothing better than to burst their bubbles on the actual capabilities, the weaknesses of thesystem, and the actual costs involved.

Get ready for a world with no intellectual property, all data and capability known, the ultimate communism of information.

Whoa, hold your horses there, cowboy! Public information? Certainly. Classified information? It will all depend on how much money, time, and effort you want to put into securing it. And if we think it's worth it, the US has plenty of all three.

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The government could probably shut down wikileaks if it wanted to. I'm not sure why they haven't.
Massive publicity is the only thing keeping that guy out of a secret CIA prison in Turkey. Which is a good thing, I suppose, but they should shut the website down.

I'm very much pro-transparency in government, but if these are the kinds of secrets that, once released, will threaten the lives of soldiers and countless civilians in several countries, then I see no merit in leaking them. This guy has said that he wants to "change history". I'm pretty sure he'll just be changing the body counts.

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The government could probably shut down wikileaks if it wanted to. I'm not sure why they haven't.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20023911-503543.html

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/u-s-wikileaks-release-will-put-lives-in-danger-1.327091

This could be very serious for individual sources and collaborators.

Military and diplomatic personell should just get used to the fact that if it is electronic, it isn't private.

I worry about our growing dependance on "fly by wire" and other high tech control systems.

If you can build it, "they" can hack it.

Get ready for a world with no intellectual property, all data and capability known, the ultimate communism of information.


-- Edited by BigG on Friday 26th of November 2010 08:31:57 AM

-- Edited by BigG on Friday 26th of November 2010 06:43:41 PM

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