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When PBO signs the first major legislation to come before him, he will say "Congress deserves all the credit for this piece if important legislation." But everyone will know or assume to know that the President's finger prints are easily found on it. This is what any President will do and it will irritate the R's to no end. evileye



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longprime wrote:

It's politics. The R's want to show that they can get something done in the 114th in preparation for 2016. 


 I agree with you there, longprime, but the idea of PBO giving credit to any one but himself?  That would only happen on a SNL skit.



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It's politics. The R's want to show that they can get something done in the 114th in preparation for 2016. 



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 PBO won't get what he purposed but even a little bit, he will probably give credit to Congress.


 You're kidding, right? 



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PBO in SoUA gave the opposition a gift- Do something "positive". PBO won't get what he purposed but even a little bit, he will probably give credit to Congress. I wonder if the mainstreamers can see it.  evileye



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It's a tome. Classical demand/supply/pricing curves. There was never a shortage of oil. The "shortage" was all about getting the oil out of the ground at a profit using whatever "current" techniques.
Yep, yep, yep, & yep.

Some more agreed points might be: you can't trust the US government, Western oil interests, or turban wearers, but you can trust a sunk capital expenditure. If Obama and all the environmental loons he's stroking aren't Luddites, they're fools. More likely both, since one doesn't preclude the other.

I'm done with washlets.

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6 year ago, there wasn't much demand regardless of price. 

The Prize, Daniel Yergin

It's a tome. Classical demand/supply/pricing curves. There was never a shortage of oil. The "shortage" was all about getting the oil out of the ground at a profit using whatever "current" techniques. 

Speaking of the "rat's ass"- perfect for washlets.biggrin

Did you know that fracking was an adaptation washlet technology.confuse

 



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The oil people don't give a rat's ass about you, me, or anyone's job other than their own, lp. If they could keep the price at $200 they would, but they can't because it chokes the economy to death. Likewise, what the governor of Colorado want's is what's good for his state - not yours, or the nation - and the best thing he or any of the previous govs could have done for it was ramrod more pipelines out of it. Instead, there was (and for all I know still is) a rough $10/bbl surcharge for oil coming out CO due to limited pipeline capacity. Screws the landowners, and the state itself, due to reduced royalty payments.

That said, I also reject the premise that Keystone would make enough difference to Colorado's fortunes that it would be worth contacting our occasional president about it. Maybe worth it if the point is selling political cover to our vacationer-in-chief, but not otherwise.


O's squatted on Keystone for 6 years. 6 years. A 6 year delay in a dependable feedstock for US refineries. A 6 year delay in a value added product for US refineries, US workers, US shareholders. Believe what you want but he ain't helped out the common man here... nope, the only thing he's been concerned with for the last 6 years was his party and their need of campaign cash from environmentalists.

Happy days to you and yours.



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You do know that the Topic makes it the high water mark of my day? evileye

WSJ reported lastweek, that Gov of Colorado (pet eng) visited PBO. He said that many pipeline companies kinda wish that the Keystone won't get built. ????

IMO, Keystone will be highly disruptive. A net job loss to Americans because it adds more oil into the supply chain. Texas is already seeing job losses because of low crude. Keystone will maintain jobs in Canada but not in the USA. I think the oil people are putting some pressure on the Republicans who will need to gracefully negotiate themselves out of a self-made corner. PBO has nothing to lose in Keystone. 

 



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Didn't think there was a bottom to bidets for you lp but I'm glad we finally found it. Most happy we didn't actually have to look at it.

I'd prefer to see a pipeline, long as anyone other than the US taxpayer is funding it. I'm talking sunk, construction costs here, not the ecological costs the wild berry eaters dream up for people like Bill McKibben & the hanging chad guy, AlGore. Money spent burying the shipment method means it'll likely continue coming our way when it's scarce.

Given the present glut that will be years away, but a nation that thinks in decades rather than months, is less likely to find itself holding the greasy end of the stick.

We can probably both agree that unspecified politicians are only thinking as far as the next fundraising cycle.

 



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That bidet is a French style bidet. I'm pushing the Asian style/HighTech washlets. 

Personally I'd be more interested in discussing the Keystone XL and Shale/TarSands crude. You know the stinky, "stuff-that-comes-out-between-the-crack" when you wash it out with hot water. A shipper wants to build enlarge crude, train terminal to accommodate 4x100 car trains, along the lower Columbia River. Capacity is 300,000-360,000bls/day for transship to other Westcoast refineries (typically oil products is shipped by barge from WA and CA to Portland). In comparison the Keystone XL has a build cost of $6bil and has a max capacity of 830,000bl/day.



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"Ugg"?

Not the enthusiasm level I was expecting, lp.... Five bucks would probably get us a nail clipping from that goofy cat and we'll offer the Korean lab a bit of royalty for the cloning. Work out a spiffy tie-in of 'feline'/'fur-lined', and bidet's are sure to move from the shadows right on out into the light. Where they belong.

An innovative approach is what you guys have been lacking.

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Ugg.

I will say that some are better than others. And it is not the water that counts. wink



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I googled, looking for a forum devoted to bidet fans and didn't find much, lp. Lots of talk about how their virtues aren't appreciated by Americans, but nothing about the fixation itself.

Did run across this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiqQost9Hs

Don't believe the part about it being 'the cutest cat' and it only becomes topical around 1:30 or so.

 



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I got to slip in a plug for bidets in Boglehead forum.

BTW, catahoula, you could teach your catahoula to step on the seat for a fountain drink, instead of drinking from the bowl. :rolf:  I meanrofl.gif Keep the paws clean, nothing more disgusting than a dirty seat. biggrin



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Don't have time to get up to credible speed on washlets... at least not to where I'd be sure I wouldn't leave a bad taste in their mouths re the subject, lp.bleh

 



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Speaking of cc, I bet you could work washlets into the terrorism thread over there, longprime - have you seen the faces of the brothers? They should have been dunking both ends in the ol' bidet.


 I don't frequent CC very much. No desire to read terrorism thread. I've been "banned for life" and intend to stay that way ... until DS decides to get someone knocked-up and we have grandchild(ren).evileye

Cat, perhaps you can take up the throne seat and be the rue of CC.  



-- Edited by longprime on Saturday 10th of January 2015 10:52:09 AM



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I suppose I'm asking you, longprime: in the future, should I send all my campaign contributions to the Chamber of Commerce or the DNC? Which? Split 'em 50/50?

I'd like to feel like I'm making a difference.confuse



-- Edited by catahoula on Tuesday 6th of January 2015 07:47:09 PM


PBO has been good for the CofC in that he gave them some one to blame but PBO also gave CoC a more level playing field and the consumer spending money. 

The Keystone Pipeline- PBO should "pocket veto" the Keystone, thus allowing the Congress to pass a law permitting the finalization of the pipeline. The problem is that the new oil from the Keystone really doesn't have anyplace to go-TransCanada (owner) may not want to complete Keystone. This is going to make the R's look foolish and PBO a seer. 

http://www.eia.gov/petroleum/supply/weekly/

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That's defeatist talk, busdriver. There has to be a pony somewhere amongst all these pigs, on that would look out for me if I looked out for it with some cash.

Can't be one of what passes for a democrat these days, though. And neither can it be what the Chamber of Commerce stamps as a good republican, seeing as both believe the key to American prosperity is supporting non-working citizens & importing uneducated/unskilled non-citizens to do the work. Somewhere in that scheme is the assumption our newly minted citizens are going to carry an aging population, along with the non-productive one, too. Neat theory but one way too complex for me to ever understand.

Agree about the tax increases, though. They're going to have to be really, really massive, since every penny anyone has isn't likely to be enough. Don't know about yours but our retirement accounts are beginning to shiver in their boots.

Speaking of cc, I bet you could work washlets into the terrorism thread over there, longprime - have you seen the faces of the brothers? They should have been dunking both ends in the ol' bidet.



-- Edited by catahoula on Friday 9th of January 2015 09:33:57 AM



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You need a change of scenery, lp, or you need to get out more, or something....

 

I agree busdriver.  I'm not spending a gallon of cheap gas to get to the polls the next presidential election...

 



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I say, forget sending those campaign contributions to anyone at all. They are all a$$es, every single one of them.

Save it for the future massive tax hits you're going to get. It doesn't matter who is in office.


 Some are cleaner than others. But you can tell by getting your nose into the cracks of politics.

Hope, every one got their Washlet Bidets. biggrin

thankyou, BD11, for that leadin. evileye



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Some one called me?

In the long of Politics, PBO has set the stage for a GOP win in 2016. But they will lose in 2020. 

The Question, What the 114th Congress will do (not much) ? And What the 114th Congress want to do, may not be all that popular even though the Conservatives think it's good in 2010-14. 

How about removing state regulations on rail, truck, and pipeline transport of Shale oil, gas, LPG? How about removing required rest time for airline pilots, train operators and truck drivers, all are in short supply or soon will be. I personally want the removal of the 2nd crew member on freight trains. 

My favorite is the FDIC charge on banks for loans and deposits. 

And then there is the ethanol "mandate" in gasoline, which I am afraid will be kept even though it's costs more to produce than the end energy product and  is an unjust TAX on me for fuel and higher meat prices besides an unwarranted subsidy to corn farmers but not to barley m

evileye

 

 



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I say, forget sending those campaign contributions to anyone at all. They are all a$$es, every single one of them.

Save it for the future massive tax hits you're going to get. It doesn't matter who is in office.

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I see you posted on cc for the first time in a long time.

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Boehner's not my ideal when it comes to an anti-Obama protagonist... lean more towards someone like the pest control guy, Tom Delay... but he's what we're looking at for the foreseeable future.

I suppose I'm asking you, longprime: in the future, should I send all my campaign contributions to the Chamber of Commerce or the DNC? Which? Split 'em 50/50?

I'd like to feel like I'm making a difference.confuse



-- Edited by catahoula on Tuesday 6th of January 2015 07:47:09 PM

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