Political & Elections

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

RE: My bad! Got another thread cancelled on CC.

longprime · Guru

I ve been foughlowed many times in high tech. You just got to plan for it. It's when management brngs in consultants is when the stress goes up.

hope · Guru

IMO the Oscars thread was even more ridiculous! No discussion of The First Lady as the best picture presenter allowed (even though it was perhaps the most newsworthy part of the show), but only AFTER a few negative posts re her appearance Popped up. In other words, approving of the First Lady being there was perfectly acceptable, but the opposite was political and inappropriate. Laughable, and so predictable.

soccerguy315 · Guru

romani

honestly, I don't know what I responded to.

I went on a rant about how the entire situation was terrible and Congress and the WH are all morons. As I will be taking a 20% paycut... #furloughfriday

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

It is suureal. Never actually discuss it! It doesn't existJust how do you talk a out a sequester - something inherently political, without discussing those who came up with the idea or those who won't cut from this budget?

yes, I am making it political.

I am laughing hysterically at the spin against a on Woodward and the veiled threats from WH.

busdriver11 · Guru

This made me sigh a bit.

"MODERATOR'S NOTE
Discussions of what YOU would do or what have done if furloughed/laid off is permitted on College Confidential. Discussions of how to cut the budget, Congress, the President, the reasons for sequester, or any other similar topic is NOT PERMITTED and will close down the thread."

A little too specific upon what is allowed and what is not. Anything can be political, and anything can be discussed in a non-political manner. I had a very non-political post deleted also. There are a number of other threads that could be considered political. Seems that it's that time of year that people want to talk about things that matter.

But I console myself with the thought that, well, it's a private business, they can do as they like. Even when it seems silly.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

Lol. I thought that whole thread was amusing.

Did you respond to something "political"?

It's truly amazing what is "political" on there and what is acceptable.

soccerguy315 · Guru

my posts got deleted in the furlough thread and they weren't political at all... wtf

longprime · Guru

I find UB to be a Hen House with lipstick. Since I can't comment on UB, I find www.cartalk.com, rewardingly fun.

Emeraldkity · In exile

http://gawker.com/urbanbaby I wonder how young parents find the time to kvetch about stuffthat doesnt matter. Then again perhaps the writers @ the Onion are feeling a need to moonlight. http://gawker.com/5873793/rich-people-are-funny-when-they-whine-about-feeling-poor?tag=urbanbaby

longprime · Guru

What's the matter, Urbanbaby remind of you of someone biggrin

I was registered once, even posted-rather made an inquiry. It seems that I can no longer log on, something about a system error that they will investigate. evileye

Maybe its because, I don't live UES. Brother does, and they had a UB and now grandkids as UB.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

I went to UB.

I regret my decision.

longprime · Guru

What's the matter, Urbanbaby remind of you of someone biggrin

I was registered once, if even posted-rather made an inquiry. It seems that I can no longer long on, something about a system error that they will investigate. evileye Trying to learn the codes.

Maybe its because, I don't live UES-UWS and have dirt under the nails. [Brother does, and they had a UB and now grandkids as UB. ]

Emeraldkity · In exile

The readers of urban baby must be the people reality tv is designed for. Double yikes.

busdriver11 · Guru

Urbanbaby? Yikes!

longprime · Guru

I started reading Urbanbaby.com

It's a riot and more. Mommys are soooo crazy evileye

busdriver11 · Guru

My God, 5 W-2's? That is just AWFUL! Too many jobs, too. I'd prefer to change every 30 years or so, thank you very much!

Well, just let us know over here if they start attacking you on cc, and I'm sure we'll come to your defense. There's so many threads, it's hard to follow. I really only get on a few and check them every now and then. Too much effort to do more.

Have a very happy birthday, and good luck with all those grad school application decisions coming in soon!

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

I hate tax time. I'm waiting on my W-2s. All three of them. Plus the whatever I get from my school.

Last year was worse- I had 5 due to job changes. That was so gross.

I know I can't go cold turkey, but I'm taking baby steps. Or maybe I'll get a time out for being inappropriate or something lol.

Plus, it's my birthday this weekend so I'll be doing some crazy gymnastics to get my apartment in a more appropriate state for guests :D lol.

And it'll be good to have one less addiction when I head to grad school.

But I usually post at work. Because there's nothing else for me to do. I'm out of projects and our new boss (my boss's boss) wants to be directly involved in EVERYTHING so I can't do anything major without his OK- which we never get. Yay red tape!

I like conversing with people but I can't find a home there. College Life is just so bad. Parents Cafe/Forum gets my temper going too often. Ah well :)

I've recently started posting on studentdoctor.net- Maybe I'll just trade one addiction for another :p

busdriver11 · Guru

He probably knows you quite well. Maybe a start would be just to cut down on the time spent. I'm trying to spend less time on the internet myself. I have so many boring chores waiting to get done....blah. I did just finish my sons taxes (from 2011). I know he should do them himself, but it's just one of those trivial, miserable chores that I do for my kids. I know he's out there having a blast right now.

Much more interesting conversing with people than doing boring chores!

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

I told my bf that I was quitting CC and he laughed at me :(

Apparently this addiction runs deeper than I thought :p

busdriver11 · Guru

It's weird, every time I try to post on the "Low self esteem" thread, it logs me out, and I can't post. But as soon as I go to any other thread, it logs me back in.....must be that crazy Mad hatter again, knows I'm going to say something snide and sarcastic. She's a mind reader!

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

I realized I got overly offended to something and kind of lost my cool. But that's NOTHING like who I am irl and it bothers me that CC's cliquey thing turns me into a person I'm not. I don't know why it is but I don't like it.
You'll see what I mean if you go to my last post lol.

busdriver11 · Guru

Uh oh, did something else just happen, or you've just finally had it?

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

Ugh ok now I'm committed to breaking my addiction. I'm just so done. This is going to happen.

longprime · Guru

There is a spring EOC for all majors in Feb, though.

Forgot, it's been 6 years, and DS never told us about the fairs. He was set on grad study. We only found out through online, The Tartan.

Just last week, met a local mom with a 2008 ('09, '10?) CMU CS grad. She said that her's spent 2 years in NYC in financial cs, and then moved to Bay area doing the same. He doubled in CS and business.

busdriver11 · Guru

"I have given up on arranging marriages for my kids. Although there is a fair to good chance my youngest daughter would be a local girl in the not too distant future, Busdriver! (Well, after college, that is)."

Yay!! I hope so!!

"I have no idea how people juggle college and babies. Blows my mind. Kudos to you,sls. I don't know how you did it"

That is quite amazing. I'd imagine that it is very rare that people can handle that. One major thing at a time is hard enough!

busdriver11 · Guru

"Hope BD's son attends 2013 TOC, there still is a chance that a left company could offer something better."

The TOC is in the fall. There is a spring EOC for all majors in Feb, though. I'm not sure how many tech companies show up to that, but I'm sure all the majors will be there. I don't know if he will go, as I'm not sure the BBD is out there for the taking......maybe, but he seems pretty set on working for this company. He did say that people in his field tend to only work at a company for a year or so, and then move on to do other things and make more money. Seems weird to me, I'll be with the same company for 25-30+ years. Of course, if we move elsewhere, we start at the bottom of the list and probation pay (20K most companies), so people try to stay where they are.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

Another one goes poof. Any hint of Sandy Hook and it goes poof whereas the gun thread went on 1000+ posts and merely got locket. Because that wasn't political from page one... ha.

longprime · Guru

I see that ceding a local "prospect" to BD is now moot.

Hope BD's son attends 2013 TOC, there still is a chance that a left company could offer something better.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

I have no idea how people juggle college and babies. Blows my mind. Kudos to you,sls. I don't know how you did it lol

Emeraldkity · In exile

I wouldnt deign to pick SO's for my kids, they found them without any help from me. They both have serious boyfriends, oldest has been living with hers for a few years, and they visit his family ( who live about 2500 miles away) together, at least once or twice a year for the past five years. Youngest boyfriends parents live in our county, and they have taken D into their fold as well taking her along on their winter vacation recently.

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

I have given up on arranging marriages for my kids. Although there is a fair to good chance my youngest daughter would be a local girl in the not too distant future, Busdriver! (Well, after college, that is.) I look at my sons and realize that their lives are not near what my life was like at the same age. I was having babies and figuring out how to finish my college education and pay bills. Everyone hits that adult stage at a different time, and age isn't the determining factor, any longer. I don't blame you about not loving the inane posts at College Life, Romani. I felt that way in many posts in Parents section. I did live the political section, though. Even when it made me mad.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

Objectively, I totally understand why someone would be annoyed with me, after all I'm clearly just a kid so what would I know? Or in the words of one particular poster, I'm clearly just playing house... Whatever the feck that means. But I can't help it if my problems and interests lie more with this demographic than college life. You can only read so many omg I have no friends threads before your brain explodes.

I think it's just difficult for some to wrap their minds around a student being an independent adult because of the rampant helicopter posts. And clearly, if their precious babies couldn't do or know something, no one under the age of 35 could either.

Whew I needed that mini rant :)

busdriver11 · Guru

I have noticed, romani, that some people are quite annoyed with you, and it seems completely unfair. It's like they think they are superior because they are parents, and by golly, you'd better listen to their advice, because you don't know what you're talking about! And when it becomes obvious that you are more reasonable, thoughtful and intelligent than they are, it completely enrages them.

Now, I understand the desire to pass on one's knowledge to younger people, because God knows.....that's just about all we have over the younger generation, is experience of doing things the wrong way. But then again, just because we are older, doesn't mean we are right, and just because someone is much younger, doesn't mean they don't have a clue. It bothers me a lot when people are really rude and judgmental to younger people, with no knowledge of their life experience. Of course, with some of the kids, it's hard to resist because they are obviously immature.

Then again.....I used to enjoy Saugus, so obviously I have no taste.

busdriver11 · Guru

Oh, so ek has eligible daughters, then? I have 2 sons (18 and 22), that I'm always trying to arrange marriages for on this forum (much to their chagrin, if they ever found out). And I do live close, so I would love them to settle down here....hopefully it will happen! I would love them to marry a local girl, so sorry LP, I think I have priority here.

I think, emerald, that if you want to stay on cc, just never link anything or quote anything too long, if that's what you're in trouble for. Just figure that for whatever reason, they are looking to get you off the site, and you will not be allowed to violate one rule, or it will be enforced. Completely unfair, because I know we all see things that are completely inappropriate that many posters do....but because it's a private business, they really can do whatever they want. I would just know the rules and make sure to stay within them. Maybe you can plead your case to stop your restriction, though I'm not sure who with. Then again, it is probably good to spend less time on the internet. But, here we all are!

I have only gotten one warning so far. Dstark swore at me (probably for legitimate reason), and I responding with his obscenity in a quote. Obviously, I should have known better, it was inappropriate. I wish the e&p site hadn't been closed, because it is so hard to stay away from bringing politics into discussions in the other forums, because for so many of us....everything is political.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

Oh yes, they're quite vicious at CC. I have a few people that outright don't like me and repeatedly report my posts for nothing wrong at all. A mod told me that lol. I've also had people leave me a nasty thing or two on those greenie things. CC is a habit I would so like to break but simply cannot.

There is one particular poster on there who really has it out for me, but he/she has simmered down.

One of the mods used to give me profile infractions all the time. Most of them were for BS reasons and I even had a few taken off my account (which is apparently doable). Haven't gotten in "trouble" in quite a few years though.

Emeraldkity · In exile

D's are good, oldest is still in interviewing mode, so she is coming up to visit her sister at school this week before she finds a job & her sister gets too busy with classes. Youngest usually goes to visit her sis, ( they are 8 yrs apart), so it is nice for oldest to come up to see her " little"( who is 6" taller) sister this time. We live in the middle, oldest lives about 200 miles south & youngest lives about 90 miles north. Im happy that they are both so close for now.

longprime · Guru

Personally I've had a not so permanent ban and then my last banning, I made sure that I sayed banned by copying reply to Roger Dooley and Dave Berry. I was running out of anecdotes and no parent was willing to offer their daughter to my DS. evileye

So what are your D's doing, EK biggrin

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

Many have have temporary or permanent bans, sometimes justly, sometimes not so much. I started this forum when Politics and Elections closed down. We had a lot if regulars come over and then, so many don't stay. The vibrant community at CC was great and horrible. It is hard to replicate that same dynamic group vibe. Hope you stay and invite your friends, Emeraldkity!

busdriver11 · Guru

No, going on this site is not going to ban you.

I can't understand why EK would get banned for doing that. Did you get several warnings for doing something they objected to? That doesn't make any sense.

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

When did they make this rule?

longprime · Guru

Congratulations EK.

Perhaps your PermBan is because you started to post of this great site. ?? evileye

I've discovered that when I pull facts & figures out-of-my-ass, I assume that the reader will make their their own verifications and minimally make a sniff test. I get around the verification by being vague enough to be plausable and use the washlet bidget making the F&F to be smell free. biggrin

TutuTaxi · Veteran Member

Emeraldkity wrote:
Today I was apparently permanently banned, for including a link from a LA times article about Project Gutenberg.( didnt quote this time) This was above the column headline. Technology THE BUSINESS AND CULTURE OF OUR DIGITAL LIVES, FROM THE L.A. TIMES

EK, are you saying you are no longer allowed to post on CC?

Emeraldkity · In exile

Its like little bunny fufu. You get three chances. ( why is it that my formatting is not showing up?) I already had my first chance, for I don't remember what, I think I posted a link to a youtube video before you were allowed to do that. It was a good while ago, and as far as I remember, at that point, they removed my post and told me not to do it again & that was it. But then about a week ago, I replied to a poster who was making pretty wild statements, by quoting two very short paragraphs in an article & the link to the article.( about 6 sentences altogether) That earned me a suspension of a week where I couldn't post. So that was my 2nd warning. So I carefully went back and reread the terms of service, and noted that yes, it is stated that you can never quote more than one or two sentences- ok, fine, even though Ive been doing that for years because I am terrified of paraphrasing incorrectly, I feel more comfortable quoting. But the latest one I really don't understand. Posts are allowed from sites that for all intents and purposes are blogs.( IMO) In fact I have several current replies that are still up from sites that are essentially blogs, as do other posters. ( although perhaps I misunderstandvwhat a blog is, but then I haven't seen a definition) I linked to this column from a tech writer for the LA Times. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2010/08/project-gutenberg.html Now I see that it has "blog" in the url, so apparently that is all that matters, although the LA Times site seems much more neutral than other sites that I have linked to in the past & never was scolded for, & since I do all my posting from my phone or my ipad, I am not always reading the whole url. But how is this article seperate from the newspaper? I just went back to CC to clarify, exactly what was the issue, & it appears that I have been banned for one month, not permanently, but if I get one more infraction for anything then I will be permanently banned. Since I have just committed two infractions in the past two weeks, for essentially making the same kinds of posts, I have made over the past ten years, ( & one of those weeks, I was not allowed to post), I am anticipating that it is only a matter of time before I stick my foot in it again. I figure I must have posted something that really ticked someone off, so now they are just looking for things. If not, they really should have made a point of saying that, " we've had all these rules for 12 years, that we only lightly enforced, but now we mean business". Its a good thing that the water exercise class I started last week has started to make me feel better, so Im not stuck in bed so much anymore, otherwise I would be sad at my loss of the community. ( Im still sad, but its probably time to move on)

-- Edited by Emeraldkity on Monday 14th of January 2013 03:47:56 PM

Emeraldkity · In exile

Speaking of being banned. I have a question. Ive been on Cc for over ten years. I was banned recently for including a quote that was longer than two sentences. I had included a link, and it was relevant. I have been taught that the most important thing, was to make your information traceable back to the source, even when you paraphrase. This I have always done, unlike some who pull " facts & statements" out of their a$$. Ironic, that you can make inflammatory comments & you won't be " punished",but try and make information available for people to read themselves and that isnt permitted.@@ This is not any different than any other posts that I have made in the previous ten years, in fact some have had much longer quotes. & it is only in the past couple weeks that it has been a problem. Today I was apparently permanently banned, for including a link from a LA times article about Project Gutenberg.( didnt quote this time) This was above the column headline. Technology THE BUSINESS AND CULTURE OF OUR DIGITAL LIVES, FROM THE L.A. TIMES I have been posting regularly in a similar fashion for at least ten years, I am confused as to why now linking to columns by journalists under the auspices of the newspaper where they are employed is banned. Perhaps if I had only linked to a youtube video of them reading their column out loud.

soccerguy315 · Guru

the Democrats want more revenue... where do you think they are going to get it from if they don't raise the tax rates?

longprime · Guru

I am not trying to pin W or the R's for this although I think they should get the credit because I happen to think it's a good idea for the Nation.

Company benefits are deductible to the company and not taxed to the employee. The only portion that is taxed is the contribution that the employee makes to the HI plan and of course any copay-deductibles. In contrast to a small business or to a self-employed person, both don't get the breaks of "group" rates, insurance bundling, sufficient profits to get low cost loans, cash flows.

I ask, do parents still tell their children to "get a good education so that you can get a good job." And do, graduates and others ask, "I am looking for a job with Benefits". How about, "I can't quit my job because I can't afford private HI."

The problem with Company benefits and tax ramifications, is that Benefits stiffles and acts as a disincentive to entrepreneurs, to small businesses, and to self-employed/tip dependent/contract/casual labor/farm labor to under report income.

Are there other alternatives, Yes.

Disclaimers:

Watching SNL

In retirement mode (62) but buy HI at Obamacare rates because I have a pre-existing medical.

I do have a dormant business entity and have had functioning business before and had jobs.

TutuTaxi · Veteran Member

longprime wrote:
Personally, What is wrong for employers to inform their employees what the true cost of HI and SS is to the both parties and what the implied return of investment when the employee collects. Afterall, these are "benefits" that are offered at the goodwill of the employer.
If anything, listing costs and expenses on the W2 is an R initiative, which I fully support.

There is nothing wrong w/ employers making their employees aware of the cost of the non-payroll benefits the employee receives.

My question/concern is why does the cost of employer-sponsored health insurance need to be added to the employee’s W-2 form unless all or part of that amount will NOW be considered TAXABLE INCOME.

Nice try but the change to the W2 was NOT a Republican initiative .... continuing to blame Bush and the R's is getting really OLD.

-- Edited by TutuTaxi on Saturday 12th of January 2013 10:06:53 PM

longprime · Guru

[quote=tututaxi] 1- At least one of CC’s moderators is connected to the Obama administration. 2- With Obamacare employees WILL be paying taxes on the all or part of theiremployer-sponsored group health plan.

Personally, What is wrong for employers to inform their employees what the true cost of HI and SS is to the both parties and what the implied return of investment when the employee collects. Afterall, these are "benefits" that are offered at the goodwill of the employer.

I know many state employees who have virtually no idea of the true cost of their benefit package; Their package when compared to private employers; Their package in relation to their productivity; and Their package in relationship to taxes.

If anything, listing costs and expenses on the W2 is an R initiative, which I fully support.

-- Edited by longprime on Saturday 12th of January 2013 10:33:33 AM

-- Edited by longprime on Saturday 12th of January 2013 10:34:29 AM

-- Edited by longprime on Saturday 12th of January 2013 10:35:10 AM

SamuraiLandshark · Guru

Suspension of payroll taxes.