Ah yes, samurai. Though this talk is not to help cool off tempers (or bore people to death, at least not intentionally), but because it is apple season out here in the PNW. So many apples, so little time. I'm not even crazy about apples.
Yes, longprime, we have pretty large, comfortable seats. And we have some really huge guys. But my apple crisp is pretty healthy, mostly apples, cut the sugar and butter down.
If you were like us, you'd go through one pie a day. At least. Wouldn't need much freezer space.
We had to buy another full size refrigerator, just to have a place to put our apples from four trees. It wasn't big enough for all the apples, so we had to fill our fruit compartment of our other refrigerator too. Great apple crop this year.
I always liked to be home for my kids for dinner if I could. Not always to make it, but to make sure they ate something halfway healthy, whether I picked it up already made or not. Just to see them for a time before we went to sleep. Of course, they were probably happier when I wasn't home, so they might be spared my health food cooking, and get to go out to dinner with their dad. Until they got too busy and didn't want to go out anymore.
I just made two apple crisps yesterday. They are almost completely gone, with only two of us here. I think I've gained an inch in my waist size.
I see how one could leap to the matchmaking theory if one had that on their mind, as longprime does, for his son. But unlikely Mitt was looking for qualified women (probably in their forties-fifties-sixties, for his young sons when he was governor. I really can see all sorts of jokes if Clinton was looking at binders (plenty of pictures in those binders), but it really doesn't seem humorous when you think about Romney looking at them.
I actually can't believe anybody is talking about this. Why am I talking about this? How silly, but I guess if that's all they got, well....
I'll be gone by 6:15 am come next week when I finally get to move into my new house. It'll be back to subbing then.
I feel sorry for any woman or man who thinks Mitt was insulting women by suggesting they may want to be home to make dinner for their own children. Same with the binders comment--because turning that into an insult requires such mental gymnastics. It's like when Hillary whats-her-name the commentator felt she had to diss Ann Romney for being a stay-at-home mom. Some people are just sad.
It's ok for you to make apple pies, lp; however I'm a woman--better not admit to that in front of any liberals reading here.
Seriously your 1st thought when it was said by MR the binder comment was matchmaking?
I am sorry, but I am like bus, my 1st thought was resumes, dossiers, vetting, recs.
Your 2nd question about AA. ~~~ The fact is we have EEO acts to protect women. That is on the books right now.
If a male group offered MR a binder full of candidates would that be appropriate? ~~~ Yes, if no laws were broken ~ However, you are so busy jumping over the nickels to pick up the pennies, you missed the bigger point. ~~ MR hired these women over men. Many men were not hired because MR took those binders and decided there were more qualified candidates that were women.
As far as your brother I can't answer.
I also saw the same thing about at least one group. They came out and said we asked the gubernatorial candidates to make a promise they would hire more women.
MR agreed as a candidate, and you know what... I don't care about the dang binders or how he got them. He agreed, and he kept his word.
That is the sad fact about this BS argument. People are caught up in his words/semantics, yet they miss the point he kept his promise. Worse yet, they place Obama at a God like level because of Lilly Ledbetter, yet the women working in his administration make 18% less than the men.
If I had a choice, I'd go with the guy that kept his promise and broke glass ceilings regarding position over the guy that enacted a bill of equal pay for women, put has yet to prove it.
I am not all Romney right now because as a woman I wonder who he will tap for SOS, SOD. That being said I can't think of a woman I would feel comfortable with in those positions. I am comfortable that he would place another woman on SCOTUS before a man.
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IMO, on the first hearing, the Binders sounded like me offering a binder full of eligible women to eligible son-insulting to DS. On the flip side, it is also insulting to the women where they put on display for bid.
On another level, in 2002, do we need to have affirmative action? Do successful women need to have AA or can they or do they have what it takes? If a male group offered MR a binder full of qualified candidates, would that be appropriate?
On a political side, AffirmAction is deemed to be discrimintory against the other group. Both political party has made AA an important issue, one for and one against. Affirmative Action is repugnant to AsianAmerican students who are vying for certain colleges.
On the family issue-If a male said that they needed to be home to make dinner for the kids, How would they be viewed by superiors. Older Bro works at a fairly high level at BigBank, normally to 2300-2400hr and near to the end-of-month more towards 0200hr. 12+hours/day. His replacement was a younger woman with young children. She took the job knowing the work load, but within 6 months she had more support staff so that she could be home with her family at reasonable hours.
So a few hours after the debate, the women's group said that they offered Binders, MR didn't request them. A slight but subtle distinction.
I actually only watch between 5:30 am and 7:15 and by 6:45 it is background noise as I start laundry, unload the dishwasher, and brush my teeth.
7:30 the tv is off and I am in my car doing that silly wife/mom stuff...again why I am too dumb to get that MR was actually talking to women on an intellectual level from a corporate perspective....sarcasm!
Longprime,
You were the one that said it was insulting on many ways.
Tell us how it was insulting.
Were you insulted that media made hay out of it, or were you insulted by the binder comment?
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Ladies, you gotta start making apple pies instead of watching morning TV. I made another 2 pies and 2 crisps, last night. We have nice Western USA crop of apples this year.
Side note. Nationally we have a B I G year for acorns. We gotta see a bunch of squirrels (tree rats) next spring. There was Nature show recently on a rat explosion after several good years of food abundance (bamboo seeds) which culliminated in the rats eventually outstripping their forest food supply and then progressing the rats stripping local rice farms in a single night.
I have to say at least for GMA by 7:15 they have hit the highlights, talk to reporters assigned to each campaign and than their pundits. I et both sides.
I will be honest come 7:20 I turn off the tv, and as a VA resident I listen to www.wmal.com over the net.
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I told my friend who had the Gravenstein trees that I knew as a 10yo (trees are 60+yo) that Nobody, Nobody turns down an ApplePie/Crisp as a gift. They seem to expect fond memories of Mom or a hacksaw blade. Freeze the pies. My problem now that I am running out of freezer space and its too early to give them away. 20 pies take up a lot of space, Additional 4 more tomorrow nite, then its on to pumpkin pies 0ooo0
-- Edited by longprime on Friday 19th of October 2012 05:34:40 PM
That is interesting about GMA opening segment, pima. I've been spending the last couple of weeks either muting the sound of the spin on CNN or MSNBC or turning the darn tv off, I'm willing to give it a try. I feel as you do about Fox. I've been thinking lately about how pathetic it is that we can't seem to get unbiased news at any outlet. The best we can do is piece together different views from all the bias and come to our own conclusions. More work for us--the work journalists should be doing!!
Ms Clinton came under fire after the piece, from this month's magazine, was published online yesterday, but her aides quickly came out in her defence, denying that Ms Slaughter was the particular 'whiner' the secretary of state and mother-of-one was referring to. Instead, she was talking about the fictional character, Holden Caulfield, from classic novel 'The Catcher in the Rye,' who wasn't mentioned in the Marie Claire story.
'It's outlandish and misleading for Marie Clare to imply anything else.'
Either Marie Claire did a hatchet job and took big liberties regarding what Hillary stated in the interview or her aides are grasping at straws.
We will see soon enough...if Marie Claire publicly announces the comment was about Holden Caulfield than Hillary is vindicated. If they hold their ground, it will hurt the Obama campaign when it comes to the women's vote.
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I agree with you bus, I can't fathom how it is insulting.
What I find insulting is the MSM talking about this topic when it comes to women. It is as if they are dumbing women down, and making us into ultra-sensitive women where we aren't smart enough to see it like you or I do busdriver. Resumes, dossiers, recommendations of qualified women is what he meant.
Ironic that while they are making hay about binders and MR, they are silent when it comes to Hillary and what she is saying about women. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82586.html
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says in a new interview that she can’t stand “whining” by women who are unhappy with the work and family choices they’ve made in life and complain that they have no options. Clinton, in the interview with Marie Claire, was discussing Anne-Marie Slaughter, a former director of policy planning at the State Department who left in 2011. This summer, Slaughter wrote a much-discussed cover story in the Atlantic — “Why Women Still Can’t Have It all” — about leaving her job because of the difficulty of balancing her work at State with the needs of her two teenage boys. “I can’t stand whining,” Clinton told Marie Claire. “I can’t stand the kind of paralysis that some people fall into because they’re not happy with the choices they’ve made. You live in a time when there are endless choices. … Money certainly helps, and having that kind of financial privilege goes a long way, but you don’t even have to have money for it. But you have to work on yourself. … Do something!” Clinton added, “Some women are not comfortable working at the pace and intensity you have to work at in these jobs. … Other women don’t break a sweat. …They have four or five, six kids. They’re highly organized, they have very supportive networks.” Lea Goldman, director of features and special projects at Marie Claire, clarified in a statement that the “whining” comment wasn’t targeted at Slaughter. “We are thrilled that Secretary of State Clinton was able to reflect on her time in office with us, weighing in on work-life balance, obviously a core issue for many American women—and certainly of avid interest to Marie Claire’s readers,” Goldman said. “We want to make it clear that Secretary Clinton’s specific comments about ‘whining’ were not in reference to Anne-Marie Slaughter but, as noted in the story, part of a larger conversation about women in the workplace and striking a work-life balance.” Clinton wasn’t totally unsympathetic toward issues raised by her former employee. “It’s important for our workplaces … to be more flexible and creative in enabling women to continue to do high-stress jobs while caring for not only children but [also] aging parents,” Clinton said
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Mika is the worst. I use to watch Morning Joe, but she has become so partisan she make Barnacle look like he cheers for the Yankees when it comes to politics.
I than switched to CNN, and was happy watching them until they too are wrapped up in this issue. I am now watching GMA because at least they have knocked it off.
To me they actually brought up an issue many women were feeling that night, including me. They each looked like Bullies.
I stopped watching Fox a long time ago because they are also biased. I want to hear the other side from logical positions not their personal positions.
It is sad that I feel GMA in their opening segment is where I can get balanced information regarding the parties. Seriously, it is GMA!
OBTW, I bet Mika was spitting nails today because Katie Couric was on the dais...the traitor that went to ABC...the puff media, just 2 seats away from her comrade in arms, Chris Matthews and she was nowhere to be found, and worse yet another Morning Joe contributor was 2 seats away from him too, Maria Bariromo. Chris sat right behind Obama on the dais. Chris was personally roasted by Obama.
Poor Mika, Katie, Maria and Chris are in all of the photos...you, as the DD of a former NSA director, champion in the a.m. for Obama didn't get that glory moment. I think she was huffy to get recognition/invites like her NBC peers.
Mika needs to read what Marie Claire just released regarding Hillary Clinton's interview and whining, specifically women before she makes Romney's binder comment an issue.
Oh yeah, never mind, I am a dumb woman, I need Mika to tell me that this was offensive, I am not intelligent enough to understand in the corporate world they have binders filled of applicants, MR decided to remove the male applicants and asked for only female applicants...OOOH he is evil, because he decided to look at qualified women one by one.
Of course I have heard the D's response that he placed them in lower cabinet positions. Honestly, to me the key word is cabinet, and he started to break the glass ceiling. He gets my respect for his actions, I couldn't care less if he had 1, 10, or 100 binders. I care more about he had 50% of his staff/cabinet that were women. That he allowed flex schedules for these high demanding jobs. Mika would prefer I care about semantics and not actions.
I think as a woman it would be advisable that Mika keep her mouth shut, because PBO is paying 18% less in annual salary for his female administration personnel. Some of us dumb woman can see through her agenda.
-- Edited by pima on Friday 19th of October 2012 09:10:41 AM
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Insulting, how? I can't even think of any possible ways that would be insulting.
Would it be insulting to say, "resumes" of qualified women? Dossiers of women? Recommendations for qualified women? How about lists of qualified women?
For the life of me, I can't figure out what the fascination is among the anti-Romney crowd with his use of the word "binders" in describing his affirmative efforts to recruit women for jobs in his administration. I thought they were all behind the use of affirmative action to employ women and minorities. I guess the fascination with Big Bird ran out of steam. Talk about a void of ideas, and lack of record to stand behind.
I wonder if "not optimal" will replace "binders" as the new twitter meme?
Does the media understand how govt works? They live by binders.
As a woman, I do not understand why this is a topic worth 2 days of news cycle compared to the economy/unemployment and how more women are in poverty today than 4 yrs ago.
Silly me...I see now they have to keep it in the news cycle so we forget the real hard stats of what women are feeling today.
They of course go onto birth control, but I think if they did, the problem is the cost is about 80 bucks a yr., it isn't thousands. MR and R's can turn back and say that the cost to gas your car now compared to 4 yrs ago for a month is approxinately the difference in dollars you are talking about.
MR as far as I know never has said he opposes Birth Control, he is saying it shouldn't be on the taxpayer dime when we are TNs in debt.
One thing I do like that came out of the Binder comment was he understands women as Moms and he allowed his own staff schedule flexibility for them. I would hope his staffers bring this up as an option he used as Gov.
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It'll be back to subbing then.
