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Post Info TOPIC: Is President Obama going to throw Hillary under the bus?


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RE: Is President Obama going to throw Hillary under the bus?
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I don't think it is plausible, because PBO already has this issue hanging over him, if the drone strike hits an innocent person, even if they get the intended target it would be equivalent to lighting a match on a powder keg. It would become...you see PBO's foreign policy and actions now have created a worse situation.

He just needs to stand pat since Hillary took the blame, and if memory serves me correctly a few months back she said she would not be the 2nd term SoS.

Again, politically for her party it was the best option that she get the bus tire tracks across her body as soon as possible.

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Going off topic, but I have to say, if there was any doubt that the media protects their own or their personal slanting, this illustrated it with the silence regarding Candy Crowley.

Let's be honest if Brit Hume did that...interrupted PBO 3x more or have 10% less speaking time they would be screaming how his press credentials revoked for bias.

On topic, I don't know if she is a masochist or she might be so used to being a DC insider that she accepts this as OH WELL WHAT CAN YOU DO?

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I think if Brit Hume had done the equivalent, democrats would have spun conspiracy theories regarding how fortuitously pat the whole exchange was -- the after debate walkback wouldn't have been much trouble for them to fit in, either.

Instead, we just have to admit he's a lucky guy, hanging out with friends who see things much as he does. Funny, though, that the polling doesn't seem to indicate the debate zinger or Hilary taking a bullet on the subject is doing much good in the long run. I'll admit that if she seriously desires a shot at the Supreme Court, she didn't have much choice but it's starting to look like she's hitched her wagon to a loser.

Masochist was a poor choice on my part, since pain for gain is something else entirely, but I would say that she's made some poor choices, almost habitually so. Take GW, for instance: As far as I know, he's neither cheated on his wife or ever asked Condi Rice to lay still in the middle of the street.

edited to add: What do you think the chances are of somebody in, or least plausibly near Libya, some Sheik Abudallah Ibraihim Whatever, getting his hair lit by a predator strike in the next week or so? Maybe even in time for next weeks debate, the foreign policy one?



-- Edited by catahoula on Thursday 18th of October 2012 02:09:22 PM

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He's a lawyer.

Important as that fact is, it bears repeating: he's a lawyer and whether the fig leaf of "I called it "terror" right away was premeditated obfuscation or something useful found later in a otherwise forgettable speech doesn't really matter.

Crowley calling the exchange for Romney, later, on technicalities, and being ignored in today's reporting, suggests this might be all the leaf they think they need.

Hilary does have a masochistic streak, doesn't she?



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It was very frustrating to see Mitt fumble the question on Libya. It was a softball up the middle that he just blew. He seemed not to have been briefed properly that the key issue to be made in the debate is that whether or not Obama referred to terror the day after the attack, for the next two weeks, not only UN ambassador Rice, but OBAMA HIMSELF on TV talk shows repeatedly responded to questions about the Benghazi attack by suggesting it was triggered by a spontaneous protest about the videotape, even though he knew, or should have known within days after the attack that there was no video protest preceding the attack.

Romney should get it right in the next debate.

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I have to say it was comical last night because yesterday Hillary takes the blame, 12 hrs later he says it stops with him. If he believes that than I would have a follow up question for him.

In the corporate world if a Sr executive says I screwed up horrendously, to the point that 4 people died because of my negligence, the CEO would have no other choice, but to request that Sr. Exec. to resign. Is he going to ask for her resignation?

If not, than I have to say they play the political game really well because all it does is creates confusion among the Americans regarding who really was at fault.

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"I lost respect for Hillary this week."

 

Just what I was thinking.  What is wrong with this lady?  Exactly what bargain with the devil has she been making all these years?



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A lot of busses, indeed. Wondering what will happen in tonight's debate.

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It looks like he got her to jump in front of the bus.

The problem is, there are too many buses on this one for her to jump in front of.

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Not really since that is not a judicial issue. Her confirmation problem would be she hasn't been in that world for yrs., but Kagan wasn't either.

It might be Alzheimer's setting in, but if I recall correctly yrs ago the pundits on MSNBC said this was her true aspiration and she was taking this as a bargaining position for the future. By having her as the SOS, or at least placing it in the winds, Obama would get her voters.

I lost respect for Hillary this week. She sold out the SOS for Obama. Obama throws them under the bus, and she remains silent, for what? Obviously not to give Americans answers, not to defend the people in the SOS, but to protect her party and get Obama re-elected.

I can't believe Bill is still stumping for Obama now.

New thought, I bet she is keeping her mouth shut, Bill is stumping because they want the UN Ambassador slot for her or him or maybe the UK Ambassador position. Let's be honest, that would be perfect. They own a home in NY, Chelsea lives in NY. They love London, and Chelsea does too.

Again the reason why I lost respect for her...her silence.

Heck want Pelosi went after the CIA, Panetta stepped in and defended them. Hillary as a leader hasn't.



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Getting through the confirmation could be tough, if her judgement was in question in Bengazi.

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I think she is hoping that Obama will win and she could become a SCOTUS justice. I don't think she wants to be in the direct political limelight anymore. I don't think she really ever had any intention of running in 16.

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If she quits, I bet she does not run for anything else. She will probably run some university or think tank.

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If he throws Hillary under, than she won't be able to run in 2016.  Seriously.  She will have resigned in scandal, and won't have a platform - a foreign policy failure on her watch. 

No- she doesn't want to be SOS in 2012.  It is a gigantic biggie for her, though.  This will taint her chances in ways that the Clintons are keenly aware.  



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I agree this is a double edge sword for him. I am pretty positive Hillary stated a few months back that she would not be SOS for his 16 presidency, so for her it isn't a biggie so much. For him, it becomes who will want the job knowing you throw them under the bus to save yourself.



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It is shaping up that way. The spin over who knew what and when has begun on Benghazi. If he does, he sacrifices the legitimate 2016 Pres candidate. If he doesn't, he sacrifices his own candidacy. Either way he is in big trouble. We essentially ignored looming threats of terrorism and sacrificed our diplomat, in the cause of keeping a low profile.

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