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RE: GOP just lost the election
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GO, RON PAUL. 

Oregon's delegation although bound by state law to vote according to election results is in near revolt. 

http://www.freep.com/article/20120827/NEWS15/120827100/Ron-Paul-delegates-mounting-floor-fight-over-new-rules



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That was my thought in the op: that when the liberal propaganda machine gears up into overdrive, so many people will fall prey to it, and be "scared" and "terrified." I understand the Democrats are planning to highlight the tragic war on women at their convention. Even the estimable student Ms. Sandra Fluke is scheduled to speak.

That is interesting, FarmDad. I saw polls are picking up for Mitt, esp. battleground state polls. Maybe the American people really are able to brush aside all the Dems attempts at distraction.

 



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But I will say that it legitimately scares the crap out of me that ANYONE could believe this. In interviews with those voting for him, many believed what he said despite the fact that he's backtracked. That is absolutely terrifying to me.

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I don't think Akin is going to have any real impact on the main election.

But it does scare me that many people will still vote for him. As a survivor, the things he said hit too close to home.

What I really think is going to have a bigger effect is the fact that it highlights how far right Ryan is on issues especially with women's rights. It brings up the issues of abortion in rape, incest, and even things like IVF treatments. That to me is going to be the bigger take away from this.

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Akins is another religious nutjob who gives the rest of us Republicans a bad name. Romney has called on him to quit the race but he wont' do it so his seat is now lost to the dems. What an idiot.

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Don't think it's over.  Romney repudiated Akin faster than you could say Lani Guinier.

Besides, there's this to give hope hope:

Analysis of election factors points to Romney win, University of Colorado study says

August 22, 2012 

A University of Colorado analysis of state-by-state factors leading to the Electoral College selection of every U.S. president since 1980 forecasts that the 2012 winner will be Mitt Romney.

The key is the economy, say political science professors Kenneth Bickers of CU-Boulder and Michael Berry of CU Denver. Their prediction model stresses economic data from the 50 states and the District of Columbia, including both state and national unemployment figures as well as changes in real per capita income, among other factors.

“Based on our forecasting model, it becomes clear that the president is in electoral trouble,” said Bickers, also director of the CU in DC Internship Program.

According to their analysis, President Barack Obama will win 218 votes in the Electoral College, short of the 270 he needs. And though they chiefly focus on the Electoral College, the political scientists predict Romney will win 52.9 percent of the popular vote to Obama’s 47.1 percent, when considering only the two major political parties.

“For the last eight presidential elections, this model has correctly predicted the winner,” said Berry. “The economy has seen some improvement since President Obama took office. What remains to be seen is whether voters will consider the economy in relative or absolute terms. If it’s the former, the president may receive credit for the economy’s trajectory and win a second term. In the latter case, Romney should pick up a number of states Obama won in 2008.”

Their model correctly predicted all elections since 1980, including two years when independent candidates ran strongly, 1980 and 1992. It also correctly predicted the outcome in 2000, when Al Gore received the most popular vote but George W. Bush won the election.

The study will be published this month in PS: Political Science & Politics, a peer-reviewed journal of the American Political Science Association. It will be among about a dozen election prediction models, but one of only two to focus on the Electoral College.

http://www.colorado.edu/news/releases/2012/08/22/analysis-election-factors-points-romney-win-university-colorado-study-says



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Have some perspective.

The election is not next week.

It's in 10 weeks, and everyone will have forgotten about Akin by then.

That said, Romney is unlikely to do what needs to do by then to win anyway.



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I have moved most of our retirement funds to either protected annuities, money market mutual funds, or to high quality stocks. No matter who wins the Presidential election or which party wins Congress, we will be in a tough ride for the foreseeable future, JMO.evileye

Traditional Keynesian economics has not made much of an impact nor has the Federal Reserve QE programs other than to stop the fall and somewhat stabilize the problems. evileye Europe has tried austerity and there is political backlash. China is trying the same methodology as USA but they got a big economy and dependent of exports, India is always floundering,  

So what's MR/PR gonna do? Spend more-Not. Tax less-does it matter, middle class and Boomers, are scared from the past cycles and W's tax cuts, which are supposed to trickle down and are supposedly to be still trickling down after 10 years of huge tax cuts to the wealthy? "Broaden the Tax Base",  which means more taxes to the middle class and less taxes to the wealthy; Make the poor pay some taxes-which isn't going to raise much money? Cut services and entitlements-most of which go to the middle class? Suppose we eliminate the mortgage interest tax deduction, and student loan programs/deductible interest? 

Gawd, I sure hope the R's win. They deserve it and its fruits. evileye



-- Edited by longprime on Thursday 23rd of August 2012 08:25:39 PM

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Akin is clearly a moron, but he still has a solid chance to get elected, IMO

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wrong...ind. will decide and the economy is top priority

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As if the Romney tax issue wasn't enough http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/tapper-media-heavy-on-tax-issue-132732.html   http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mark-halperin-media-is-very-susceptible-to-doing-what-the-obama-campaign-wants/

now the Democrats have the gift of Akins. Nonstop coverage, endless possibilities for discussion of the "war on women," the "extreme" Republican platform, etc.

Pretty much over--right? Or wrong?



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There never was much chance the media was going to spend the last three months highllighting economic issues, so I guess the question is: what took so long?

Yeah, Akin's a gift for the narrative but since he's been denouced as someone who should go ahead and take responsibility for being a fool - throwing himself out of the gene pool was be a good first step - it probably won't amount to much other than base motivation. Face it - a women who can be talked into voting against Romney/Ryan because democrats tell her they're both enamoured with the idea there's such a thing as "legitimate rape", or derivatives, is likely to have been swayed by something like this:

Instead, we’re getting “informed debate” like an item on the liberal Huffington Post website that claims to describe the GOP position on women’s health.

It’s a picture of a coat hanger.

(Not being a HuffPo addict, I haven't seen actually seen it... someone with the Boston Herald had the pleasure.)



-- Edited by catahoula on Wednesday 22nd of August 2012 04:24:43 PM



-- Edited by catahoula on Wednesday 22nd of August 2012 04:28:33 PM

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