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The Biden is Quayle 2.0 .... Seriously I wonder if he can spell POTATO without an E?

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VP's never used to need to be perfect. A really despised one was always a mistake but it used to be harder to paint them that way in two or three months.

Biden's probably a bang-up guy, and that last makes me want to invite him on a fishing trip or to a bbq or just to have a beer.  It does suck for him he's up after his party made a messy object lesson out of someone who seems just as down to earth and likeable, in the last cycle



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The end of the article had a charming anecdote about what Biden said to that 13 year old boy. Nice. Politicians are a different breed, now. Social media and instant news/manufactured controversy would make it tough for just about anyone to get elected. JFK would never be elected with all his womanizing, btw. I still wonder why anyone wants to be President.

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I have been plagued with those gremlins ever since typing on an iPad.

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^^ I tried, really tried, on the formatting but the script gremlins rule.



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Yep, that seems to be the blandest exuse, that he's "spontaneous" and at his best when he's not being managed:

It was the side of Biden — comfortable with his emotions, and with a gift for human connection — that makes him appealing to many voters. And the moment never would’ve taken place if he had not effectively overruled his would-be handlers.

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There is disagreement, though - Gov. Wilder see's Biden's gift as a "not very good thing"....

Former Virginia Gov. Douglas Wilder, who became the first African-American to be elected as a U.S. governor since Reconstruction in 1989, told Fox News host Neil Cavuto on Wednesday that the negative tone of President Barack Obama’s campaign is regrettable.

Wilder singled out Vice President Joe Biden’s remark Tuesday at a rally in Danville, Va. Biden told his heavily African-American audience that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney “is going to put y’all back in chains.”

Wilder said that type of rhetoric would make it “daunting” for Obama to work with Republicans, if he is able to win re-election. And he noted that Republicans may be poised to take over the Senate as well as holding onto the House.

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Pure pollyana, since "working with republicans" sounds to much like deviating from that: "Guys.... I won" position that surfaced so early in the first term. So soon it couldn't have been a reactionary one.
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Jesse Jackson, otoh, says it's the coverage of the "in chains" remark that isn't helpful, rather than that Joe blurted it out, ....

What I do know is, just address it forthrightly as overblown rhetoric that was not helpful and a distraction from President Barack Obama’s message,” Jackson said in an interview with POLITICO. “If the president has to reprimand him, that becomes a big issue, if he ignores it, that becomes a big issue. So we just make certain in these exchanges that none of the candidates use language that’s distracting from jobs, justice, education, health care and peace.

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.... While leaving the door open for him to critique anything the Romney campaign blurts in an entirely different way.
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That said, the WaPo was disappointed with the remark but managed to eke out equivalence from the Romney campaign:
As has been by now widely discussed, Mr. Biden told a heavily African American audience that Republican Mitt Romney, if elected president, was “going to put y’all back in chains.” Mr. Romney read the remark as a reference to slavery and proclaimed himself to be highly affronted. Our view: The Biden comment was dumb and uncalled for, the Romney reaction tactical and over the top.
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"Even steven, and you should both be ashamed of yourselves".
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About now would be the time to bring up media bias but it would detract from something Biden said that disturbed the WaPo much more than the idea Republicans were going to press gang an entire ethnic group:
“Hey, by the way, let’s talk about Social Security. Number one, I guarantee you, flat guarantee you, there will be no changes in Social Security. I flat guarantee you.”
24/7 or he'll drag the ticket down.


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Oh, but that's just "Joe being Joe." furious



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And a republican besides?

That he'd drag Romney down if they were partnered doesn't seem to be in question but it is interesting that he's back in the news. Almost daily. Because of some need for the media to showcase the democratic alternative to Ryan or because they're trying to push him out?

Granted, the president covered for him today but he wouldn't be the first to fall through the trapdoor believing his sins had been forgiven.



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