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Date: May 10, 2012
RE: Is Barack Obama an American?
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like Marion Barry in DC

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Got himself a delegate! How 'bout that?

He's in the Texas penal system and probaly mostly rehabilitated already. Guys with less history have been re-elected - repeatedly - so I don't see why we can't take the high road here and wish him the best of luck.

(Deciding between environmental money and jobs/votes in a state dependent on a villainized industry must have been a tough call.)



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remember the days when he was touted as being "post racial?" I myself fell for that for a brief time. We were all so naive back in '08. At least for a brief time.

Expediency necessitated a lot of things that turned out to be mainly a more evolved campaign rhetoric, but I was thinking more along the lines of how surprising it looks today to have, during wartime with a radicalized Islam, elected a guy with the middle name of Hussein. One who spent time in Indonesia with Muslim family. Not only biracial but rootless and conflicted about his identity, by his own admission.

Passing strange.



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Come on rightwingers, admit you're as amused as I am about Keith Judd in West Virginia.  Got himself a delegate! How 'bout that?



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We were all so naive back in '08

Not all.

I don't mean that in a snarky way. I just mean that many people saw what was coming, and sure enough, it came.

It's a national embarrasssment for us to have elected somebody like that.



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Ah, remember the days when he was touted as being "post racial?" I myself fell for that for a brief time. We were all so naive back in '08. At least for a brief time.

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He could have been raised by mongooses on some old Brit colonial plantation, for all I care, but...  it's remarkable --- I mean, face it, it really is --- that with his biographical baggage, he was ever elected.

Granted, today's media attention will probably fade, due diligence done and all that, but....



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http://news.yahoo.com/barack-obama-american-184000861.htm

COMMENTARY | This is not another tiresome treatise on Barack Obama's birth certificate. He was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

 

Byron York writes in the Washington Examiner about a new biography of the president soon to be published by David Mariness, a Washington Post reporter. York describes a brief time in the early 1980s when the future president lived in New York after graduating from Columbia University. Obama at the time was questioning whether he was an American in the way he viewed the world and followed politics.

The sense of Obama's rootlessness with his own country is perhaps understandable, given his biography. He was born of a Kenyan father and an American mother and had spent part of his childhood in Indonesia where he had become absorbed in the local culture.

But the ambivalence Obama felt and might still well feel toward his American identify also seems to have informed his politics. In a now infamous speech in Strasbourg, France, Obama seemed to lecture his own country by accusing it of having "shown arrogance" toward the views of other countries, particularly in Europe, according to the U.K. Telegraph. As Austin Bay adds, Obama also was dismissive of American exceptionalism, stating, rather sarcastically, "I believe in American exceptionalism, just as I suspect that the Brits believe in British exceptionalism and the Greeks believe in Greek exceptionalism."

It could be argued America had shown arrogance when it saved Europe in two world wars and the Cold War from tyranny. America has been exceptional in its democracy, its love of free markets, its regard for individual worth and its technological triumphs such as the moon landings.

It probably can be said with safe assurance that none of the previous 43 presidents had any struggle over their American identify, except for some of the earlier ones who had to fight in a revolution to be an American. Obama's ambivalence over his American identity might well inform the skepticism many feel toward him. The image of Obama as "the other" is not, as many liberals believe, caused by racist bigotry toward the black president with the funny name. It is a reaction to Obama's own attitude toward himself.



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James Carville says that Democrats are being totally stupid if they believe that Romney doesn't have a real chance of winning.

I doubt there are that many people who genuinely believe things are going to turn around with another four years of the composite President/Comedian-in-Chief administration.



-- Edited by hope on Tuesday 8th of May 2012 05:11:39 PM

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