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Date: Apr 2, 2012
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This is just part of the larger pattern described in "An Operator Who'd Not Operating in Good Faith."

Not recognizing that Israel has a capital equals not recognizing it as a legitimate and sovereign country.

This approach is similar to a tactic that was used by OWS. Remember the discussions months ago about how they didn't seem to have a list of demands, or if they did is was really vague? That kind of thinking (not making demands) is characteristic of anarchism. Because, if you make a list of demands then you are implicitly acknowledging that the party you're making the demands of has power over you, and it is legitimate. If you don't recognize that power then why would you make demands?

If you won't admit that Jerusalem, or any other city, is the capital then you don't recognize the legitimacy of the nation.








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http://news.yahoo.com/state-department-won-t-jerusalem-capital-israel-231604329.html

State Department Won’t Say Jerusalem is Capital of Israel

If the Obama administration wants to soften its image among Israelsupporters as being questionably interested in Israel's interests, then refusing to describe Jerusalem as Israel's capital was probably not the way to do it. In a press conference today, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland did exactly that, to the consternation of many reporters who repeatedly kept trying to clarify her remarks, only to be repeatedly stonewalled. The Weekly Standard has a transcript of the exchange, of which the relevant passage is as follows:

 

Q:  Is it the view of the -- of the United States that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, notwithstanding the question about the embassy -- the location of the U.S. embassy?

 

MS. NULAND:  We are not going to prejudge the outcome of those negotiations, including the final status of Jerusalem.

Q:  Does that -- does that mean that you do not regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND:  Jerusalem is a permanent-status issue.  It's got to be resolved through negotiations.

Q:  That seems to suggest that you do not regard Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.  Is that correct or not?

MS. NULAND:  I have just spoken to this issue --

Q:  (Inaudible.)

MS. NULAND:  -- and I have nothing further to say on it.

Q:  You've spoken to the issue --

MS. NULAND:  Yeah.

Q:  -- but (haven't answered ?) the question.  And I think there's a lot of people out there who are interested in hearing a real answer and not saying -- and not trying to duck and say that this has got to be resolved by negotiations between the two sides.

MS. NULAND:  That is our --

Q:  What is the capital of Israel?

MS. NULAND:  Our policy with regard to Jerusalem is that it has to be solved through negotiations.  That's all I have to say on this issue.

 

The story comes just after the Washington Free Beacon noted that the State Department had listed Israel and Jerusalem as separate entities in a press release, which has since been amended. Originally, the release read as follows:

State Department Israel Press Release

Some would probably argue that coming down on one side or another of this question might have tipped the Obama administration's hand too much on U.S. policy regarding Israel. Yet this ignores the fact that under current U.S. law, Jerusalem is considered the capital of Israel. That boat has sailed.

Is the administration hardening its anti-Israel credentials even further? Weigh in below.



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