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She lives in Hawaii - sounds like she flies back on forth from one island to the other all the time.  Not sure if baby was in tow.  Probably why she was bringing pumping supplies.  



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SLS, You said what I wanted to say, and of course did it much better. 

I however stand by, that the mom should stoodup, and other women should have come to her aid. As a guy, I find that TSA was out of line, and hopefully, I would have helped her. 

Wearing heels on a airplane/airport with kid ??? IDK, is this normal, extraordinary? 



-- Edited by longprime on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 06:08:26 PM

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I kinda find this a bit odd.

1. Being humiliated. From what I see of public nursing Moms is that they are proud of their nursing ability.

2. Odd that the woman never bucked the issue to a higher level. 

3. That other women in the public restroom never said anything in the way of offering help/advice.

4. That this lady could have just publicly exposed her breast and breast pumped. There are sympathic women who would eventually aid her if she asked ( maybe/isnt there a sisterhood of mothers?)

5. Airport administrators would certainly come to her aid, if known. Which wants an airport commotion and bad publicity.

Oh well. Someone lost their job. Some one in the airport admin got reprimanded. Some one got even. And a baby cried over spilled milk. evileye



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It's not humiliating to nurse a baby in public. It is perfectly natural. I nursed my three kids just about every place imaginable.  I used a baby sling and most of the time, nobody had a clue that my babies were nursing.  

Proud of a woman's nursing ability?  Huh? How is that even relevant to the story? This wasn't a mom nursing her baby.  She was draining her breast to store milk for her baby.  It's not like you get a prize for nursing your young or storing breast milk. 

It's not fun pumping milk standing up over a public restroom sink (not exactly clean) doing this with a machine. It takes a good while to do this - probably 10-30 minutes, depending on the pump, if the woman has enough in her breasts to empty, whether they used the machine on both sides and how relaxed she was. When I pumped with my manual machine, it took much longer than to actually nurse with a baby.  

It would be humiliating when you don't have the right attire on (she had a dress and heels - not exactly conducive to strapping a pump on your breast. Try it sometime.)

It is humiliating when you are stressed and half naked in a public bathroom trying to let down your milk.  Stress doesn't help the milk let down response. Try it sometime.  

Travelling is already difficult enough.  

We don't know if she asked for a supervisor or not.  It wasn't stated in the article.  That doesn't mean it didn't happen.  

A nursing mom who has pumped before doesn't need another adult woman to help her do it.  She has done it - repeatedly.  How was another woman supposed to help her?   The woman this happened to probably just didn't want a stream of dozens of women coming in to the public restroom watching her.   

Having expressed milk in many restrooms of the college I attended when I was a new mom, I will say it was uncomfortable, unsanitary and unpleasant when I had to find a place to pump.  I didn't have a handy dandy electric pump - couldn't afford it.  I wore clothes that made it easy and brought a blanket so I didn't have to share it with the world.  Even so, I got weird stares and I explained to lots of women who had no idea what I was doing (remember - I was in college at the time).  

The TSA agent who was misinformed could have easily offered the private screening room to this woman, but didn't.  



-- Edited by SamuraiLandshark on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 09:34:21 AM



-- Edited by SamuraiLandshark on Saturday 3rd of March 2012 09:37:00 AM

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Here is the pay scale for some of the TSA jobs. I live close to LAX and some of those agents aren't doing too bad - others aren't making a bunch.  

http://www.usajobs.gov/JobSearch/Search/GetControlResults?keyword=TSA&location=&search=Search%21

Every airport I have gone to seems to do something different.  It's often baffling. I always read the new rules on the airline website before going through security and still sometimes wonder. 



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If she was so convinced she was right, why didn't she ask to talk to a supervisor?

sg has a point. They don't make much and many of them aren't trained well. It's quite sad.

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you get what you pay for...

what do we pay TSA people?

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http://news.yahoo.com/hawaiian-mom-breast-pump-humiliated-tsa-212107341--abc-news.html

Mom With Breast Pump 'Humiliated' by TSA

mother in Hawaii was "humiliated" when she felt she needed to pump breast milk in the open area of an airport bathroom in order for a TSA agent to permit her to get through security with her breast pumping equipment.

"I'm in a dress, in heels and I find myself in front of a sink and mirrors with travelers coming in and out of the bathroom," Amy Strand told ABCNews.com. "I'm standing at the sink with my breast hanging out, pumping. I wanted to cry. I was humiliated."

Strand, 38, is a mother of four and principal at a public school in Maui. She frequently travels between islands for business and had never had a problem with the equipment before.

On Wednesday, as she was making her way through airport security at Lihue Airport in Kauai, she was stopped in security and an agent asked if he could look at the equipment. She obliged, and the agent opened her kit to find her pump, a cooler pack and empty milk bottles.

Strand said she had done "what no nursing mother wants to do" 20 minutes earlier and dumped out the milk in the bottles in order to avoid any hassle going through security. She never imagined that empty bottles would be the problem.

The agent told her the ice pack would not be allowed through security without milk in the bottles. Strand said the ice pack is specially made for the milk's cooler and would not be easy to replace.

"It really confuses me as to how an empty breast pump and cooler pack are a threat to national security and 20 minutes later, with milk, they no longer pose a threat to national security," Strand said incredulously.

She asked if there was a private place she could pump and was told there was not. The agent suggested she go to the public bathroom. Her electric pump required an outlet and there were no outlets in the stalls, so she had to use one in the bathroom's public area.

"There was no misunderstanding," Strand said. "I really only had two options: leave part of it behind or pump. And I'm not going to leave part of it behind because [the agent] doesn't know the police and procedures."

On the verge of tears, Strand said she returned to the line and was allowed to go through.

In a statement, the TSA acknowledged that the agent was mistaken in telling Strand that she could only bring the ice pack with her on the plane if it was medically necessary. A TSA official also said that the agent did not mandate that Strand go pump milk in the bathroom.

"The passenger has contacted us with her concerns and we accept responsibility for the apparent misunderstanding and any inconvenience or embarrassment this incident may have caused her," the statement said. "The officer in question is receiving remedial training."

"I think this agent exercised poor judgment and because of his poor judgment, I ended up humiliated," Strand said.

"I did speak personally with the head of the state of Hawaii TSA branch. He formally apologized to me and seemed very sincere and was very upset about what took place," she said. "If this can save another mom that same humiliation, it's worth talking about."



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