Political & Elections

longprime · Guru

RE: The Republican Runway

hope · Guru

"The racist Dixiecrats began to flee the party in droves, beginning with Johnson's iron-clad commitment to civil rights, and with the implementation of Nixon's Southern Strategy. Look it up.

"Wallace was a Dixie-crat. That was pre-civil rights era, when it was still acceptable to be a racist son of a bitch.:

This thread is about, I assume, how truly horrifying the "runway" is for the R nomination this year. I happen to think both parties have had some pretty horrendous contenders. 1972 was not the "pre-civil rights era." Apparently it was acceptable for Democrats to vote for a "racist son of a bitch" in 1972, according to the article I posted earlier. Wallace also encorsed Carter in '76. I believe Carter accepted his endorsement.

My only point was that there have been characters of dubious worth running for president in both parties. Wallace just came to mind as a rather outstanding example.

Poetsheart · Senior Member

I am consistently amazed how the R's ignore these two facts about Lincoln when they are anthema to modern day Republican thought. I find my self hard to align myself to the GOP when they announce at Convention time, "Party of Lincoln".

My point exactly.

I'm confused. Why did Democrats vote for Wallace in '72? Why didn't they just vote for the Grand Ol' Racist Party?

Hope, surly you're neither so misinformed nor disingenuous as to pretend that both parties haven't undergone major transormations since 1972. The racist Dixiecrats began to flee the party in droves, beginning with Johnson's iron-clad commitment to civil rights, and with the implementation of Nixon's Southern Strategy. Look it up.

longprime · Guru

Phil Knight is happy either way. He probably laments that he didn't have more NIKE ads at the stadium and TV. evileye

FFF · Veteran Member

Ahhh, so that's the derivation of your name. As a former student at "The Farm" I share your pain. The good news for the program, however, is that the game was a sellout. In the not-so-distant past, this had never happened.

FarmDad · Veteran Member

But back to the Stanford-Oregon game. Farmdad is still in pain.

hope · Guru

"In 1972, he returned to the Democratic Party fold and was a formidable candidate in that year's presidential primaries. As the most forceful national opponent of "forced busing" for school integration, he galvanized supporters who had never supported him before. But his campaign effectively ended in Laurel, when he was struck down by bullets from a gun fired by Arthur Bremer.

Nevertheless, he won primaries in North Carolina, Michigan, Maryland, Florida, Tennessee and Florida. He no longer could be dismissed as a mere regional candidate"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/sept98/wallace.htm

I'm confused. Why did Democrats vote for Wallace in '72? Why didn't they just vote for the Grand Ol' Racist Party?

longprime · Guru

I greatly admired Geo Wallace, when he admitted that he was wrong, and apologized to the Blacks. His final term was a changed administration.

Lincoln gave away public lands to participating RR builders of the transcontinental railways when even Vanderbilt and other RR tycoons balked. National Debt was kept under control because he imposed a national tax.

I am consistently amazed how the R's ignore these two facts about Lincoln when they are anthema to modern day Republican thought. I find my self hard to align myself to the GOP when they announce at Convention time, "Party of Lincoln".

evileye

Tom1944 · Senior Member

poet- Wallace was a democrat because Lincoln was a republican

Poetsheart · Senior Member

Wallace was a Dixie-crat. That was pre-civil rights era, when it was still acceptable to be a racist son of a bitch. That's like saying Lincoln was a Republican.

hope · Guru

Democrats have had some doozies, too. Let us not forget this dude:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace

Romney will be the nominee, and truth be told we have had far less capable nominees on both sides.

romanigypsyeyes · Guru

^ Lol.

Seriously, of all the Republicans out there, THIS is the best they could come up with? I'm not even that happy with Obama- but the main Republican field is just bad IMO.

Although, I haven't been able to follow new developments that closely. Gary Johnson sounds interesting to me- I want to know more about him. On the surface, he seems to be pretty much what the American people want right now (again, haven't been able to look too closely at him or his policies- I just know small tidbits). I just don't know if he can get the Republican nomination given his pretty liberal social policies. Any thoughts on this from people who are more familiar with him?

longprime · Guru

"Debates are Hurting the Republicans"

I just can't find the right emoticon to express the obivous. evileye

-- Edited by longprime on Tuesday 15th of November 2011 10:01:06 PM

longprime · Guru

the "debate" 11/12 sure differentiated the candidates. Didn't watch much of it because of the Stanford-Oregon game. Oregon's speed beat out Stanford's size and brawn. I wonder how voters are going to unite under one candidate when they all have such differing foreign policies.