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Date: Sep 29, 2011
RE: Obama gets burned with crack on wildfire
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It's important, right and responsible to discuss climate change.  It's particularly important to be honest and serious about the science.  The science isn't settled, so it's ludicrous on both sides to swear that it is.  Whether it ever becomes truly quantified, we need to be good stewards of the environment. It is beyond time to stop parsing and trying to score points or to further a political agenda by pretending to solve environmental problems when the only goal is to impose control on citizens, corporations and the economy.  We also need to be honest and respectful of the progress that's already been made and keep moving it forward.



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Date: Sep 28, 2011
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Take "may be playing an important role", "we know", and "almost certainly" and if you're creative enough to piggy-back on the careful language of the more responsible...

Nielsen-Gammon said the historic drought in Texas has intensified as a consequence of climate change because it has raised temperatures a degree or two on the Fahrenheit scale from what they would be otherwise.

... you can bake all your idealogy into:

there is absolutely no way you can conclude that climate change is not playing a role here. I’m quite surprised that anyone would even suggest that.

and score a dubious point.

(yeah, there is a glitch with the quote function... I thought it was just sentence breaks but it seems to choke on formatting, too.)



-- Edited by catahoula on Wednesday 28th of September 2011 08:30:02 PM

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IF I was an affected Texan, I'd be more concerned about my MOC voting on funding FEMA and its administrative budget.  

Texas Light Crude +~!$4.50 today (+~5.5%). Good for Texas, good for OPEC, good for USA, bad for consumers. evileye For a brief time we were <$80/barrel. yawn



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Whether climate change is making the drought worse in Texas is being argued, even in Texas. There are plenty of scientists saying that climate change is a factor in the drought and the fires.

http://agfax.com/Content/texas-global-warning-made-drought-worse-08182011.aspx

 

According to Texas A&M, climate scientist Andrew Dessler,

While La Niña may be playing an important role, we also know that humans have warmed the climate, and that is almost certainly making this extreme event worse. Given that this last July was the warmest month in the entire observational record for Texas, and with the driest 12 month period that ends in July on record, there is absolutely no way you can conclude that climate change is not playing a role here. I’m quite surprised that anyone would even suggest that.



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http://news.yahoo.com/obama-gets-burned-crack-texas-wildfires-221200669.html



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