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RE: Former Congressman Lee
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Having sold  hundreds of thousands of voters a "bill of goods" regarding their honesty, character, morality, and fitness to hold office, they feel invulnerable.

They think they really can "fool all of the people all of the time".

Their core values are hypocrisy and "self exceptionalism".



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Another one bites the dust. What's WRONG with these guys?

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Those poor kids.

What a devastating way to find out your dad is a louse.  The trust issues those girls will face with men will be HUGE.


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Personally, I think Spitzer was the worst of the worst, but not because of what he did to his wife/marriage, but rather because of what he did to his kids.  It didn't get a lot of press, but this is what happened.  He found out on a Friday that he was targeted and that the news would break on Monday.  He went to a fundraiser on Saturday as if nothing were wrong.  That much was all in the news.

What didn't get big play was what he did to his two daughters.  The scumbag of scumbags did not tell his wife or family what was happening, even though he had been notified by the authorities on Friday.  He let both his daughters go to school the following Monday.  And when the news broke during Monday, all the parents whose kids attended the school started texting their kids.  So Spitzer's daughters found out about what their dad had done, from friends while they were in school.  One of the girls was so distraut she needed medication.  Both of them were put in a situation that makes me, as a mother, feel like throwing up just to imagine how these two teenages must have felt. 

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Woodwork, would you advise a friend whose husband was cheating on her to throw the bum out? I wouldn't, necessarily. Infidelity is hard to overcome, but divorce is also difficult. We can't see into someone else's marriage, to know with certainty what is the right course.

But if the husband went on TV announcing that someone else was his soulmate? I'd be over in a flash to help my friend carry her hsuband's stuff out to the curb. I'd call the locksmith to change the locks. Some things cannot be forgiven.

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Jenny Sanford handled herself remarkably well. Throw the bum out. Strong woman. Not to say that Hilary or Silda Spitzer are not strong women (though, it was painfully tough watching Silda "stand by her man" while Eliot was giving his public mea culpa in front of the cameras --insult to injury) but Jenny set the standard for how to deal with a scum-bag spouse on the lamb.

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Scumbags.  All of them.  




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I have no wish to defend that rat Edwards. I wouldn't vote for him, and I wouldn't vote for Gingrich. Still less would I vote for that sexual harasser Foley.

I'm sorry for all the women whose husbands' infidelity was exposed so publically, particularly the ex-Mrs. Sanford. Bad enough that her husband cheated on her, bad enough that he made the ludicrous excuse that he was hiking the Appalachian trail, but on top of that, as if she weren't humiliated enough, he went on national TV while he was still married to her to announce that his Argentinian popsy was his soulmate (but he was still planning to reconcile with his wife).



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You are right, most pages are in high school when they serve, but the actual having sex with that boy moment, according to the FBI, only occurred when the romantic conquests were over 18 --like Lewinsky, but gay. Foley did however send mildly suggestive emails to pages as young as 16 as he seemed, like so many letches, to like his boys quite young.

The details of the Gingrich affair seems in dispute and I suppose that in part explains the difference in the public's reaction to his 1980 affair and divorce, and that of Edwards; in addition to the fact that Newt openly left his wife and then, during the break-up, when she was recovering from surgery from uterine cancer (she recovered well), he filed for divorce. Despicable and heartless to be sure but not even in the same league as what that rat Edwards did to his wife, friends and his supporters. Not to mention what he would have done to the country if he could have pulled it off: President Edwards.

I will say this, I would not have voted for the douchebag from North Carolina then, and I would not vote for Newt now...to me, old fashioned as I am, character matters.


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Mark Foley wasn't preying on interns. Those were Congressional pages. Pages are in high school.

Moreover, we only get to call it a "dalliance" if both parties consent. However reprehensible Bill Clinton's affair with Lewinsky was, we can have no doubt she (1) was of age and (2) was an enthusiastic participant. As far as we can tell, Foley's behavior with the underage pages was unwelcome.

Woodwork, the very cite you give shows that Gingrich was cheating on his wife, who had cancer. Same as Edwards. Equally despicable. Neither Edwards nor Gingrich knew his wife was dying when he began the affair, but both knew their wives were ill, as far as I can tell.

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Funny that you should mention Foley's sexual daliances with interns...that sort of sexual misconduct has gotten a lot of press since the mid 90's. It may be that it is worse if it is gay, but not to me. As I said, it is a tricky business arguing one side or the other has the biggest perverts...even involving interns.

As for Newt, what a heartless douche, still, far as I can tell it was not that he was cheating on his dying wife (now dead).

according to Wiki:
Gingrich has been married three times. In 1962, he married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old and she was 26.[67][68] They had two daughters. In the spring of 1980, Gingrich left Battley after having an affair with Marianne Ginther.[69][70] According to Battley, Gingrich visited her while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery to discuss the details of their divorce. Six months after it was final, Gingrich wed Ginther in 1981.[71][72]

In the mid-1990s, Gingrich began an affair with House of Representatives staffer Callista Bisek, who is 23 years his junior; they continued their affair during the Lewinsky scandal.[73] In 2000, Gingrich married Bisek shortly after his divorce from second wife Ginther. He and Callista currently live in McLean, Virginia



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Edwards is sleazy, but not nearly the bottom of the barrel. Let's see if we can match him, shall we?

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you... Newt Gingrich. Cheated on his wife while she had cancer, asked her for a divorce while she was in the hospital recovering from cancer surgery. He cheated on his next wife too.

Note that Democrats have repudiated Edwards. He is toxic. Gingrich, on the other hand, is running for president.

However, mere cheating on one's wife is not enough to get in the Politician Sex Scandal Hall of Fame, as personally sleazy as Edwards and Gingrich are. Infidelity is so common, it's practically a job requirement for politicians, male ones at least. Clearly worse is the odious Mark Foley. Here are some excerpts of text messages Foley sent to an congressional page:

Maf54 (7:42:27 PM): love to watch that

Maf54 (7:42:33 PM): those great legs running

Maf54 (7:46:33 PM): did any girl give you a haand job this weekend

Xxxxxxxxx (7:46:38 PM): lol no

Maf54 (7:47:11 PM): good so your getting horny

Xxxxxxxxx (7:47:29 PM): lol...a bit

Maf54 (7:48:00 PM): did you spank it this weekend yourself


followed by lengthy and explicit questioning by Foley about how the youth masturbated. 

For me, cheaters, yawn, though their explanations and excuses can be funny. Closeted gay men who cheat on their wives with other men, yawn, though again, funny, especially when you look at their hypocritical statements about how gayness is an abomination unto the Lord. Adults who prey on underage kids, yeech.



-- Edited by Cardinal Fang on Monday 14th of February 2011 10:38:14 AM

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How bizarre it is to see anyone argue that it's the other side that has the worst perverts.

Fwiw, to me, the major domo of the freak parade is John Edwards. Barney was just blinded by love and sex, as was Sanford, but Edwards is the scum at the bottom of the pervert’s barrel. His wife dying of cancer, he impregnates a young woman on his payroll, gets another guy on his payroll to take the fall for him while running for president of the United States all the while lying and denying the whole thing for months & months in order to bamboozle American’s in order to become the leader of the free world and make fools of us all...including his dying wife. He almost became President, too.

Tell me, what is beneath that?


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having to quit like those loser Republicans.

Of late, the Republicans have been brazening it out after sex scandals, while the Democrats quit. Mark "Hiking the Appalachian Trial" Sanford stayed in office. Larry Craig ended up finishing out his term after resigning, then un-resigning. David "Diapers" Vitter was just re-elected. John Ensign, whose parents paid off his mistress, is still in office. Mark "Pages" Foley, whose scandal was in my opinion the worst and also the creepiest, since children were involved, is attempting a political comeback.

On the other hand, Spitzer resigned, the gay governor of New Jersey resigned, creepy Eric "Tickles" Massa resigned.

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"Whoops, guess that is Democrat, not Republican. So in that case, he get a standing ovation, instead of having to quit like those loser Republicans."

busdriver, that was about 25 years ago.  The other examples are a tad more recent.

If you want to include a democrat, you don't have to look any further than Massa, in the district near Lee's, or how about Spitzer?  There must be something in the New York water.

If you want to go back in time, I still think Vetter takes the cake.  Diapers, really?


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Congressman Barney Frank never ran as a champion of "traditional family values".

He gets points for not being a hypocrite.

He loses them for his claim of "cluelessness" about the extracurricular activities of his significant other. That was "beyond the pale" and not too credible.

If you present yourself as a bastion of conservative family values to get votes, you should be just that.

A "closet conservative" who presented himself to a very liberal electorate (there are congressional districts like that) as a moderate or liberal would deserve the same excoriation.

"Sell what you got", be proud of who you are, and be honest. Is that so much to ask of a politician?

My lies support a higher good.
Your lies are self serving.
His lies are destroying civilization.

-- Edited by BigG on Monday 14th of February 2011 06:48:33 AM

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Yep, and no, "My boyfriend's running a brothel from our house, but gee, I had no idea!"

Whoops, guess that is Democrat, not Republican. So in that case, he get a standing ovation, instead of having to quit like those loser Republicans.

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Oh, those happy days of the past, when we'd have a new juicy scandal every month.. Mark "Let Your Fingers Do the Walking through the Pages" Foley, Larry "Wide Stance" Craig, Ted "I Am Not Gay, I Just Hired a Male Prostitute to Have Sex With Me" Haggard, Bob "I'm Not Gay, I Just Happened to Try to Hire a Police Officer to Have Sex With Me" Allen, George "I'm Not Gay, I Just Hired a Male Prostitute to Carry My Luggage" Rekers... and those are just the *gay* Republican scandals.

This Lee scandal is not up to the proud Republican tradition. No wide stance, no walking the Appalachian trail, no getting his parents to bribe his mistress, who is the wife of his best friend who works for him... this is a sad disappointment.


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Don't we miss when Republican sex scandals involved gay men? This recent trending towards hetero mistakes lacks the pizazz we've seen in previous scandals.

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lol CF...

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I think he was a fool to resign. (Well, OK, he was also a fool to use his own name and email that picture. And who would think that dude was 39, seeing the picture? No one.) The scandal would have blown over.

He described himself as a 39-year-old divorced lobbyist. All true, in some sense. Once he was 39. Soon he will be a divorced lobbyist.

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Woodwork:  Unless you have taken very good care of yourself, any man over 50 who does that is a masochist, or a sadist.  smile

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Good observation.

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"Congressional ethics: texting shirtless pictures=reason to resign in disgrace. Spending $1.5 trillion you don't have = Wednesday."

http://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/35491558295863296

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A few professionals, men and women, look good or at least OK until much older.

Ah! Technology!



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Ironically, DC is one of the few places in the North America that a person of power and money --a person of substance?!-- would need to satisfy their low and base desires in public. It is vulgar by definition --thank god he fell on his sword...but then, if you live by the sword you die by the sword, as they say.

Any man over 26 that photographs himself shirtless, well, he is cruising for a bruising.


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It's not been a fantastic month or so for Congress.  

Giffords and the tragedy in Arizona.

Harman stepping down this week.

Lee resigning in practically nanoseconds after this scandal.

Who else is next?


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Ding, ding.  We have a winner!

You would be correct.

It's DC.  You can't throw a newspaper without hitting a lobbyist or an elected politician.  Did he really think that his face was not known and he could pull off that lie?  He was a "rising star", supposedly.




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I cannot imagine what he was thinking ---but I can bet what he was thinking with...

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It is stunning how quickly this happened.

And shockingly, disturbingly stupid.  What the hell was he thinking?


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http://online.wsj.com/article/AP50a21f85e463494083cee7b5edb20ebd.html

What was he thinking?

What kind of idiot susposes anything online is private?

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