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catahoula wrote:

Personally, I'd prefer one that listened to voters before they shot his dog, but I realize I'm probably just funny that way, poetgrl.




 Well, you'll get no argument from me on that one.  But, I have no faith at all in politicians and am simply glad when they are willing to listen, at all. 



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Personally, I'd prefer one that listened to voters before they shot his dog, but I realize I'm probably just funny that way, poetgrl.

I do agree with the idea that the best president might very well be one that is under indictment, though. Better yet, rather than continue with the Harvard Law review guy, why don't we just take a page from Lee Marvin in "The Dirty Dozen" and pull the next POTUS ought of.... no, no, not Gitmo... a state prison?

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I don't actually "care" that welfare reform wasn't Clinton's idea, I only care that he was willing to listen to the voters.

I like that he dropped the class warfare as soon as he had the indication that people were not interested in going down that path.  I believe he was able to synthesize ideas from both side of the aisle in a positive way.  He had a good relationship with the business community. 

He left the country better off than when he took office, which ought to be the measure of a presidency, imho.

Of course, I will always contend that the thing that made Reagan a good president and the thing that made Clinton a good president are the exact same thing:  They were both too embroiled in legal issues to actually do much their last term.  Government is best which governs least. evileye

The great irony of post-modern presidencies, of course, is that the best one of all was really Richard Nixon, though he'd never be elected today, and not just because of his jowls. 

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I can't see that the general quality of our politicians has declined to any measurable extent, other than the fact they're being measured more often and in real time.

Koppel seems to be pining after the Golden Age of Journalism, that brief moment between the propaganda of WWII and Rush Limbaugh. Or, maybe he's just feeling reflective and it grates on him that Olberman has turned out to be the the end product of decades of liberal bias. Who knows?

If we set Clinton's lusts aside, poetgrl, and just look at policy and achievement, what would qualify Clinton as being a "good president"? Other than the dot com bubble and welfare reform? We can ignore that the last wasn't his idea, also.

-- Edited by catahoula on Tuesday 7th of December 2010 07:00:30 PM

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Nice article, Samurai.

I feel as if the media, in general, has become just more vicious and voyueristic, as can be seen in the profusion of "reality" TV shows on all the networks.  We are inured to seeing and hearing awful things about people, and the media is escalating all the time in an effort to get ratings.  The "news" is no exception to this, though, really, I would question whether or not true objectivity was ever possible.  I went to graduate school at Medill and I can tell you we all learned to recognize our biases only to find we had more we could not even "see."

An unfortunate outcome of this Hooveresque diggin into the less savory details of politicians pasts, however, is that we are getting the most shameless of candidates and not the most thoughtful.  Very few deep thinking people, or interesting people, for that matter, have escaped the occaisonal idiocy of human failings. 

I mean, who really believes that Bill Clinton was a "bad" president?  Under our current media scrutiny, Thomas Jefferson would not have been involved in our government, at all....Who seriously believes we would have been "better off" without his involvement?

I'm not saying I would want to be married to either of those guys, but they were good presidents, imho.



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No news there -most everything is about money.

I agree with a lot of his observations but I don't believe I would wish to defend the underpinning of his argument - that operating newsrooms at a loss is an indication of a lack of bias.

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To witness Keith Olbermann - the most opinionated among MSNBC's left-leaning, Fox-baiting, money-generating hosts - suspended even briefly last week for making financial contributions to Democratic political candidates seemed like a whimsical, arcane holdover from a long-gone era of television journalism, when the networks considered the collection and dissemination of substantive and unbiased news to be a public trust.

Back then, a policy against political contributions would have aimed to avoid even the appearance of partisanship. But today, when Olbermann draws more than 1 million like-minded viewers to his program every night precisely because he is avowedly, unabashedly and monotonously partisan, it is not clear what misdemeanor his donations constituted. Consistency?

We live now in a cable news universe that celebrates the opinions of Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly - individuals who hold up the twin pillars of political partisanship and who are encouraged to do so by their parent organizations because their brand of analysis and commentary is highly profitable.

The commercial success of both Fox News and MSNBC is a source of nonpartisan sadness for me. While I can appreciate the financial logic of drowning television viewers in a flood of opinions designed to confirm their own biases, the trend is not good for the republic. It is, though, the natural outcome of a growing sense of national entitlement. Daniel Patrick Moynihan's oft-quoted observation that "everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts," seems almost quaint in an environment that flaunts opinions as though they were facts.

And so, among the many benefits we have come to believe the founding fathers intended for us, the latest is news we can choose. Beginning, perhaps, from the reasonable perspective that absolute objectivity is unattainable, Fox News and MSNBC no longer even attempt it. They show us the world not as it is, but as partisans (and loyal viewers) at either end of the political spectrum would like it to be. This is to journalism what Bernie Madoff was to investment: He told his customers what they wanted to hear, and by the time they learned the truth, their money was gone.

It is also part of a pervasive ethos that eschews facts in favor of an idealized reality. The fashion industry has apparently known this for years: Esquire magazine recently found that men's jeans from a variety of name-brand manufacturers are cut large but labeled small. The actual waist sizes are anywhere from three to six inches roomier than their labels insist.

Perhaps it doesn't matter that we are being flattered into believing what any full-length mirror can tell us is untrue. But when our accountants, bankers and lawyers, our doctors and our politicians tell us only what we want to hear, despite hard evidence to the contrary, we are headed for disaster. We need only look at our housing industry, our credit card debt, the cost of two wars subsidized by borrowed money, and the rising deficit to understand the dangers of entitlement run rampant. We celebrate truth as a virtue, but only in the abstract. What we really need in our search for truth is a commodity that used to be at the heart of good journalism: facts - along with a willingness to present those facts without fear or favor.

To the degree that broadcast news was a more virtuous operation 40 years ago, it was a function of both fear and innocence. Network executives were afraid that a failure to work in the "public interest, convenience and necessity," as set forth in the Radio Act of 1927, might cause the Federal Communications Commission to suspend or even revoke their licenses. The three major broadcast networks pointed to their news divisions (which operated at a loss or barely broke even) as evidence that they were fulfilling the FCC's mandate. News was, in a manner of speaking, the loss leader that permitted NBC, CBS and ABC to justify the enormous profits made by their entertainment divisions.

On the innocence side of the ledger, meanwhile, it never occurred to the network brass that news programming could be profitable.

Until, that is, CBS News unveiled its "60 Minutes" news magazine in 1968. When, after three years or so, "60 Minutes" turned a profit (something no television news program had previously achieved), a light went on, and the news divisions of all three networks came to be seen as profit centers, with all the expectations that entailed.

I recall a Washington meeting many years later at which Michael Eisner, then the chief executive of Disney, ABC's parent company, took questions from a group of ABC News correspondents and compared our status in the corporate structure to that of the Disney artists who create the company's world-famous cartoons. (He clearly and sincerely intended the analogy to flatter us.) Even they, Eisner pointed out, were expected to make budget cuts; we would have to do the same.

I mentioned several names to Eisner and asked if he recognized any. He did not. They were, I said, ABC correspondents and cameramen who had been killed or wounded while on assignment. While appreciating the enormous talent of the corporation's cartoonists, I pointed out that working on a television crew, covering wars, revolutions and natural disasters, was different. The suggestion was not well received.

The parent companies of all three networks would ultimately find a common way of dealing with the risk and expense inherent in operating news bureaus around the world: They would eliminate them. Peter Jennings and I, who joined ABC News within a year of each other in the early 1960s, were profoundly influenced by our years as foreign correspondents. When we became the anchors and managing editors of our respective programs, we tried to make sure foreign news remained a major ingredient. It was a struggle.Peter called me one afternoon in the mid-'90s to ask whether we at "Nightline" had been receiving the same inquiries that he and his producers were getting at "World News Tonight." We had, indeed, been getting calls from company bean-counters wanting to know how many times our program had used a given overseas bureau in the preceding year. This data in hand, the accountants constructed the simplest of equations: Divide the cost of running a bureau by the number of television segments it produced. The cost, inevitably, was deemed too high to justify leaving the bureau as it was. Trims led to cuts and, in most cases, to elimination.The networks say they still maintain bureaus around the world, but whereas in the 1960s I was one of 20 to 30 correspondents working out of fully staffed offices in more than a dozen major capitals, for the most part, a "bureau" now is just a local fixer who speaks English and can facilitate the work of a visiting producer or a correspondent in from London.Much of the American public used to gather before the electronic hearth every evening, separate but together, while Walter Cronkite, Chet Huntley, David Brinkley, Frank Reynolds and Howard K. Smith offered relatively unbiased accounts of information that their respective news organizations believed the public needed to know. The ritual permitted, and perhaps encouraged, shared perceptions and even the possibility of compromise among those who disagreed.It was an imperfect, untidy little Eden of journalism where reporters were motivated to gather facts about important issues. We didn't know that we could become profit centers. No one had bitten into that apple yet.The transition of news from a public service to a profitable commodity is irreversible. Legions of new media present a vista of unrelenting competition. Advertisers crave young viewers, and these young viewers are deemed to be uninterested in hard news, especially hard news from abroad. This is felicitous, since covering overseas news is very expensive. On the other hand, the appetite for strongly held, if unsubstantiated, opinion is demonstrably high. And such talk, as they say, is cheap.Broadcast news has been outflanked and will soon be overtaken by scores of other media options. The need for clear, objective reporting in a world of rising religious fundamentalism, economic interdependence and global ecological problems is probably greater than it has ever been. But we are no longer a national audience receiving news from a handful of trusted gatekeepers; we're now a million or more clusters of consumers, harvesting information from like-minded providers.As you may know, Olbermann returned to his MSNBC program after just two days of enforced absence. (Given cable television's short attention span, two days may well have seemed like an "indefinite suspension.") He was gracious about the whole thing, acknowledging at least the historical merit of the rule he had broken: "It's not a stupid rule," he said. "It needs to be adapted to the realities of 21st-century journalism."There is, after all, not much of a chance that 21st-century journalism will be adapted to conform with the old rules. Technology and the market are offering a tantalizing array of channels, each designed to fill a particular niche - sports, weather, cooking, religion - and an infinite variety of news, prepared and seasoned to reflect our taste, just the way we like it. As someone used to say in a bygone era, "That's the way it is."

Ted Koppel, who was managing editor of ABC's "Nightline" from 1980 to 2005, is a contributing analyst for "BBC World News America."




-- Edited by SamuraiLandshark on Tuesday 7th of December 2010 08:19:06 AM

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I posted it five minutes ago.  How could it be gone, already?



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Appears they've misplaced the piece, SLS.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR2010111202857.htm


Interesting and quick read.  It's all about ratings and money...and has been for a long time.


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